A pit bull dog below in Wexford the latest episode of a child been savaged . Are these dogs suitable for pets .
PS The only people with Pitbulls or similar in our town are involved in drug dealing and or general criminality.
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xhomelezz
You are posting rubbish. Of course aggression is an inherited trait. All traits in amy species or plant are inherited. This is how people breed bulls for bullfighting in Spainits why Friesians are easily managed for.milking.
XL Bully dogs are a breed bred to be aggressive, powerful and large. Because it's not a physical trait you can ATTEMPT to control but the ability is limited by the ability of the owner to control it. If the owner decides to use this trait and develop it or if the owner is incapable of managing the trait in the dog it is extremely dangerous. It not a Poodle or Jack Russell you can give a good kick to to try to defend yourself if it attacks It also a dog that can/may not be able to be controlled by its owner even on a leave unlike a Poodle or Jack Russell if it decides to attack
Ayou are posting rubbish. Of course aggression is an inherited trait.
Well, whatever. Could you post something to back up
Obviously if you happen to have aggressive male and female dog (for whatever reason), and breed from them (for whatever reason), you might get aggressive pup, or you might not. I'd say it depends on how long you would do this kind of fooked breeding and medical conditions of parents..
But anyway aggression is not proven to be inherited trait in any breed. Feel free to educate me on that.
Sometimes this thread feels like being so determined to point out some dangerous dog breeds and at the same time happy to ignore basics when it comes to care of any dog's breed are not being met by big proportion of dog owners.. Till it's ok the dog can be kicked off. Again this move to ban some breed doesn't affect me or any of my dogs, two are on restricted breed list, so we follow the rules, but I make sure they meet other dogs, people, they being exposed to any kind of situation, but i was doing the same with our old lab girl, it's basics I would do with any dog. Edit: regardless of the breed, it's a fooking basics of ownership of canine companionship.
The ban will inevitably limit socialising of banned dogs, which is the worse approach ever. It will serve no good outcome for animals in question. Not to mention genuine owners and their bond with the dogs they have.
But hey, you are more than welcome to call my posts rubbish.
Here is about the genetics of aggressive behaviour
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_of_aggression#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_heritability_of_aggression_has%2Cmore_aggressive_behavior_in_animals.?wprov=sfla1
And? Did you read it? Any outcome to post?
This case shows that in the real world the restrictions are actually helping, which I’ll take as a win.
Mod: This last page is just uncivil bickering, if this continues bans will be issued.
Also, xhomelezz can't come to the thread so please don't quote their posts.
Two ingredients make up a dangerous dog, strength and aggression. Dogs like pit bulls, staffs and all sized bullys are absolutely killing machines if they decide to attack. The power in their jaws is phenomenal when you watch them even chewing on a large bone for dinner. A family member has the 3 different size bullys in their house and the XL is an absolute sweetheart. Honestly the most gentle friendliest girl you could ever meet but she is so big and powerful even her tail wagging can be dangerous. You would have zero hope of stopping her if she attacked . Zero
Logic baffles me.
Her dog attacked her and her partner and it had to be shot. She thought it was going to kill her. Yet she'd get another!
Some people are beyond help.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-thought-he-was-going-to-kill-me-xl-bully-shot-dead-after-attacking-its-owner-and-her-partner/a777797157.html
She is literally the type of owner who gives the likes of XLs a worse name than they already have. Pure brain dead
The story keeps getting better.
Ms Gillespie said the dog had previously bitten a child but insisted it was provoked. She added: “Unfortunately, I was in Turkey at the time".
Terrible breed that attracts the worst owners.
I'm always relieved when I hear it was the owner that was attacked, the same way I'm relieved when I hear someone shot/stabbed was "known to Gardai". The owners choose to have a dog that means they've entered the Darwin Award sweepstakes. If they get the consequences then fine. Its when innocent people suffer for their stupidity that my blood boils.
A couple I know had their XL bully put to sleep recently after some "sudden and upsetting personality changes". Feel sad for them losing a pet but very relieved that they saw what was about to happen in time before they ended up being another mauling statistic. Really lovely people but they were naively talked into adopting one when they went looking at dogs at the shelter with the "it's the owner not the breed" spiel and thought they were doing the right thing.
sudden and upsetting personality changes
It's a bit like when people saying my dog bit me out of the blue, nothing when it comes to dogs is sudden or out of the blue situation..
it's the owner not the breed
Always, I know it's hard to comprehend fact for some peeps, but it is what it is.
Except that, as I understand it, this was a dog adopted from a shelter.
The "sudden and unexpected" personality changes may not have been all that unexpected at all, to someone who knew the dog's history. Which is not necessarily the owners in this case. Some shelters give very little information to new owners at all. I don't think it's fair to blame the new owners for a dog's past experiences that may lead it to react in "unexpected" ways to something. And if that means the dog is complicated to care for, then the shelter should not have given it to inexperienced / unsuitable owners.
Either way, I think the current owners may be the least to blame.
Oh I know, I didn't mean to somehow suggest the adopters were in fault.
Edit: They dealt with the situation probably as good as they could. And I give them credit for getting a dog from shelter. I'm not that brave, I prefer to have my dogs from puppies. But I do admire people who do adopt, or give them home for a while before they being re-homed. Have a friend who managed to welcome over 300 dogs in her house over her life time, a lot of big breeds too.
I can go by that. What's it worth, I've said before here, why the fook are the owners attacked at?
Is it because of the dog breed, or is it because of clowns who supposed to be looking after dog they got?
Of course it has something to do with the dog breed, in fact it is ALL ABOUT the dog breed.
Ah no, it's down to peeps buying dogs they haven't got a clue about. Peeps buying dogs from unknown sources, peeps not knowing how to properly care about the dog they got (training, feeding, vet visits, etc.). Unethical breeders who would sell you anything, pups with medical problems, because hell yeah they can do whatever. Or even better they'll cross breeds to make new unhealthy breed and go on with that, cuz some clowns buy from them. Cuz those pups are sooooo cute..and can't breathe at the same time.. Endless list to go on..
Jesus Christ, are you trying deliberately to be obtuse here?
Obtuse? Of course not, but I can see a lot of posts showing remarkable levels of obtuseness and ignorance displayed..
Edit: Fixed...
Should tread be owners of dangerous dogs? Or are we talking about the owners here?
Well it seems to be owners are the problem.. Dangerous owners of dogs title would fit well.
It’s very obviously a combination of both
The dangerous owners would not be a danger if they were all going around with chihuahuas and the XL bullies would be slightly less dangerous if they were not owned exclusively by people who want them to frighten other people, make themselves feel hard and have no interest in actually caring for the dog.
Since we can’t get rid of the owners, getting rid of the dogs is the next best thing. There is no rational justification for XL bullies being allowed to exist.
Not really, unless you have something to back that claim. Surprise me please..
This thread is 88 pages long, how much more evidence do you need?
In all those 88 pages, I don’t think there’s been any mention of a springer spaniel or jack Russell needing to be shot by armed police. So I think the breed is pretty relevant.
Again aggression is not inherited to any breed as a trait. Unless you make sure to breed from some fooked up dogs..
When it comes to wagging tails, haven't seen any report yet on dangerousness on that matter. Dogs do wagging their tails for various reasons. It's up to owners to " read it" or understand their pets..
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In those 88 pages I've post enough of evidence to point out it is down to peeps. It is conveniently forgotten, because it wouldn't suit your and others narratives, obviously. This path is certainly common way to go by these days.
The last time you were provided a link you refused to read it.
Which one?
Any luck yet ? I usually read everything and anything, this thread related.
Again, a “peep” with a chihuahua is no danger to anyone.
The same “peep” with an XL bully very much is a danger. Especially given the type of “peep” who owns these things. There’s a phrase in English, “picking a hill to die on” where you will defend your position no matter how hopeless the situation. Claiming that all breeds of dog are the same and none are any more dangerous than others is the weirdest hill I’ve seen anyone die on, ever.
You appeared incapable of reading provided link by yourself and asked someone else to do it for you.
Well I certainly do read links provided here, so I was surprised by your post. And yes I did read that wiki link. Op somehow forgot to get back with his/her outcome.. That's where you've got involved 😁. Calling someone incapable of reading.. whoosh..
