A pit bull dog below in Wexford the latest episode of a child been savaged . Are these dogs suitable for pets .
PS The only people with Pitbulls or similar in our town are involved in drug dealing and or general criminality.
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xhomelezz
It’s very obviously a combination of both
The dangerous owners would not be a danger if they were all going around with chihuahuas and the XL bullies would be slightly less dangerous if they were not owned exclusively by people who want them to frighten other people, make themselves feel hard and have no interest in actually caring for the dog.
Since we can’t get rid of the owners, getting rid of the dogs is the next best thing. There is no rational justification for XL bullies being allowed to exist.
Well it seems to be owners are the problem.. Dangerous owners of dogs title would fit well.
Should tread be owners of dangerous dogs? Or are we talking about the owners here?
Of course it has something to do with the dog breed, in fact it is ALL ABOUT the dog breed.
Ah no, it's down to peeps buying dogs they haven't got a clue about. Peeps buying dogs from unknown sources, peeps not knowing how to properly care about the dog they got (training, feeding, vet visits, etc.). Unethical breeders who would sell you anything, pups with medical problems, because hell yeah they can do whatever. Or even better they'll cross breeds to make new unhealthy breed and go on with that, cuz some clowns buy from them. Cuz those pups are sooooo cute..and can't breathe at the same time.. Endless list to go on..
Jesus Christ, are you trying deliberately to be obtuse here?
Obtuse? Of course not, but I can see a lot of posts showing remarkable levels of obtuseness and ignorance displayed..
Edit: Fixed...
I can go by that. What's it worth, I've said before here, why the fook are the owners attacked at?
Is it because of the dog breed, or is it because of clowns who supposed to be looking after dog they got?
Except that, as I understand it, this was a dog adopted from a shelter.
Oh I know, I didn't mean to somehow suggest the adopters were in fault.
Edit: They dealt with the situation probably as good as they could. And I give them credit for getting a dog from shelter. I'm not that brave, I prefer to have my dogs from puppies. But I do admire people who do adopt, or give them home for a while before they being re-homed. Have a friend who managed to welcome over 300 dogs in her house over her life time, a lot of big breeds too.
The "sudden and unexpected" personality changes may not have been all that unexpected at all, to someone who knew the dog's history. Which is not necessarily the owners in this case. Some shelters give very little information to new owners at all. I don't think it's fair to blame the new owners for a dog's past experiences that may lead it to react in "unexpected" ways to something. And if that means the dog is complicated to care for, then the shelter should not have given it to inexperienced / unsuitable owners.
Either way, I think the current owners may be the least to blame.
sudden and upsetting personality changes
It's a bit like when people saying my dog bit me out of the blue, nothing when it comes to dogs is sudden or out of the blue situation..
it's the owner not the breed
Always, I know it's hard to comprehend fact for some peeps, but it is what it is.
A couple I know had their XL bully put to sleep recently after some "sudden and upsetting personality changes". Feel sad for them losing a pet but very relieved that they saw what was about to happen in time before they ended up being another mauling statistic. Really lovely people but they were naively talked into adopting one when they went looking at dogs at the shelter with the "it's the owner not the breed" spiel and thought they were doing the right thing.
I'm always relieved when I hear it was the owner that was attacked, the same way I'm relieved when I hear someone shot/stabbed was "known to Gardai". The owners choose to have a dog that means they've entered the Darwin Award sweepstakes. If they get the consequences then fine. Its when innocent people suffer for their stupidity that my blood boils.
The story keeps getting better.
Ms Gillespie said the dog had previously bitten a child but insisted it was provoked. She added: “Unfortunately, I was in Turkey at the time".
Terrible breed that attracts the worst owners.
She is literally the type of owner who gives the likes of XLs a worse name than they already have. Pure brain dead
Logic baffles me.
Her dog attacked her and her partner and it had to be shot. She thought it was going to kill her. Yet she'd get another!
Some people are beyond help.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-thought-he-was-going-to-kill-me-xl-bully-shot-dead-after-attacking-its-owner-and-her-partner/a777797157.html
Two ingredients make up a dangerous dog, strength and aggression. Dogs like pit bulls, staffs and all sized bullys are absolutely killing machines if they decide to attack. The power in their jaws is phenomenal when you watch them even chewing on a large bone for dinner. A family member has the 3 different size bullys in their house and the XL is an absolute sweetheart. Honestly the most gentle friendliest girl you could ever meet but she is so big and powerful even her tail wagging can be dangerous. You would have zero hope of stopping her if she attacked . Zero
Mod: This last page is just uncivil bickering, if this continues bans will be issued.
Also, xhomelezz can't come to the thread so please don't quote their posts.
This case shows that in the real world the restrictions are actually helping, which I’ll take as a win.
And? Did you read it? Any outcome to post?
Here is about the genetics of aggressive behaviour
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_of_aggression#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_heritability_of_aggression_has%2Cmore_aggressive_behavior_in_animals.?wprov=sfla1
Ayou are posting rubbish. Of course aggression is an inherited trait.
Well, whatever. Could you post something to back up
Obviously if you happen to have aggressive male and female dog (for whatever reason), and breed from them (for whatever reason), you might get aggressive pup, or you might not. I'd say it depends on how long you would do this kind of fooked breeding and medical conditions of parents..
But anyway aggression is not proven to be inherited trait in any breed. Feel free to educate me on that.
Sometimes this thread feels like being so determined to point out some dangerous dog breeds and at the same time happy to ignore basics when it comes to care of any dog's breed are not being met by big proportion of dog owners.. Till it's ok the dog can be kicked off. Again this move to ban some breed doesn't affect me or any of my dogs, two are on restricted breed list, so we follow the rules, but I make sure they meet other dogs, people, they being exposed to any kind of situation, but i was doing the same with our old lab girl, it's basics I would do with any dog. Edit: regardless of the breed, it's a fooking basics of ownership of canine companionship.
The ban will inevitably limit socialising of banned dogs, which is the worse approach ever. It will serve no good outcome for animals in question. Not to mention genuine owners and their bond with the dogs they have.
But hey, you are more than welcome to call my posts rubbish.
You are posting rubbish. Of course aggression is an inherited trait. All traits in amy species or plant are inherited. This is how people breed bulls for bullfighting in Spainits why Friesians are easily managed for.milking.
XL Bully dogs are a breed bred to be aggressive, powerful and large. Because it's not a physical trait you can ATTEMPT to control but the ability is limited by the ability of the owner to control it. If the owner decides to use this trait and develop it or if the owner is incapable of managing the trait in the dog it is extremely dangerous. It not a Poodle or Jack Russell you can give a good kick to to try to defend yourself if it attacks It also a dog that can/may not be able to be controlled by its owner even on a leave unlike a Poodle or Jack Russell if it decides to attack
Another one of those.
in fact it is ALL ABOUT the dog breed.
Please do post some facts, instead of
Edit: caps not needed. You can always give your hindsight on the problem. Backed up by something.. None of posts similar to yours actually displayed anything informative on the problem.
Think you've deliberately misunderstood. More one liners coming?
"Two of them would happily own you"
That says enough tbh.
Don't think using deemed and 100% fact in one sentence works as intended..
You obviously have some skin in the XL bully dog game.
No skin involved in XL bully dog game, if that's the way to talk now.
I have three dogs, non of them are part of the game..
Two of them would happily own you for talking shíte tho..
Again aggression is not inherited trait to any dog breed unless there are serious medical or genetic conditions involved.
It's always down to clowns who doesn't look properly after their dogs, dogs are not being socialised, dogs being left in pain, dogs being bred ass way, endless list to go on. Look at the number of articles in the newspaper related to reckless breeders being prosecuted for leaving their dogs to suffer in bad conditions and peeps do buy dogs from those people..
Well anyway I can see from your post you are not interested, so yeah I can give you my goodbye too.
Mod: Warned for uncivil post
I don't know what you are getting at here. You obviously have some skin in the XL bully dog game. However, I don't, and am not trying to make any point or prove any point. I am not interested in %, however, you seem to think my disinterest in quoting a percentage, proves something. It don't ...XL Bully Dogs are deemed a dangerous breed and that is 100% fact
Goodbye..
So basically nothing. That's what I thought. Thanks
Well there's always someone to pull the trigger isn't it..
Its not the gun that kills people the gun is innocent.
That's just attacks presented by media..
There you go with those blinkers again
It would actually be great to post some statistics on dog's attacks in this country.. If you have any share it please
I said majority (from above said mentioned media reports) I dont have a % but I trust that our media are reporting serious attacks accurately.
