As the title says is it too early to spread fertiliser on grazing land. Land is in great condition but just worried it might be to early
Went ahead with the reseeded meadows today put out some compound on it today. Wanted to get a bag of urea out before tomorrow's rain but the lorry didn't come in. I don't see any more rain forecast after Friday for a week would the urea application be ok then or better to get it out in the morning if it arrive's
Going out today before the rain, none forecast for a while afterwards.
Slurry is out 3 weeks ago, I'll go with 4 bags to the acre roughly, cut back the nitrogen a bit.
It's mostly reseed so should use it up no bother.
what type of fertilizer are you going with?
I never see the obsession with 100 units of Nitrogen. 2 Bags sulpha can here after slurry and alway find it enough..maybe different story if lads doing a pit… but I find it will end up lodging and wether dependant it can end up going stemmy
2 bags means you can cut it after 5 weeks and iyt gives you a bit of play with weather in mid May with more leaf in it
Silage Elite 21/2/12 with sulphur, so roughly 80 units N.
Is that roughly 50 units per acre?
I'm doing pit silage but bales could be handier for me.
Have you tested the silage? Does it work out better?
Teagasc always say "100 units for first cut" 😁
Paying any heed to what Teagasc say would be the first mistake 🙊
If Teagasc said go left i'd go right as quick as I could
😂 I should have put that in inverted commas, done now
I’d agree with you. an old farmer here years ago, who was a keen operator, used to say he wouldn’t take straight n if he got it for nothing. We wouldn’t get the top return on bales of silage per acre here, I’d be happy with 7 to the acre, rarely get more than 10. but it’s always nice fresh grass and no butt in it
I think that's an old way of looking. Have an uncle won't put anything out on his meadow only cut sward. The meadow is already half grown closed since oct field is Cleary index 3 and 4 for k and p it does grow so much. Also gets 3000-4000 gallons of slurry every year after cutting but won't listen when I tell him to go with 3 bags of can or 2 urea. afraid he will rob the field. I do think its too strong anyway
I have a field that’s low in k, i will be cutting it for silage the end of May, I can’t spread slurry on this field as it’s beside a reservoir, I will be giving it two bags of cut sward and two bags of 10 10 20 to the acre, I was also thinking of giving it one bag to the acre of potash. My question is can you spread potash on a field that you are going cutting for silage?
Just Checking... you do know potash is another name for Potassium(K) of which there is 20 units in 10.10.20 so you would be applying 90 units altogether.
I do indeed. What’s the max k you could spread at one time?
I've read 70/ac max in Spring on numerous different publications, but others have debated it
What would be the disadvantages of applying too much?
too much k can affect the way the soil absorbs other critical nutrients
ok I had a field that was very low in k, I spread 2 bags to the acre of potash last December, could this effect its performance? I gave it another 2.5 bags of 10 10 20 last week and it got slurry in January also. Just this field was reseeded and never performed great and ph is perfect
Compaction maybe if it was heavy in nature
Yeah its heavy land at times
Was it a disc and one pass job. I have done both but would nearly now go with plough on heavy ground now. Loosening the soil helps greatly
Done with the plough by a very good experienced man, we travelled it all in early February with slurry so it’s not too bad. It was index 1 for p and just barely index 2 for k
Dung/FYM in the autumn is serious stuff to help with indexes and more
better than slurry??
Rolls Royce for building soil indexs. Best if turned and left to break down for 2+years. Think black stuff that is broken down well
Yeah it was always said dung was great stuff! What’s p k value of dung?
So variable that it hard to put an average value on it. For example how well rotted down, how much dung in it, how much of the crap of the yard is scrapped into it. How much straw in it etc.
I would look at the biological activity that it can give to the soil along with it's slow release of nutrients
This field that I done had very low index’s but would soil quality make a difference? It was cut I’d say for the guts of 40 years for silage
Would it be safe to spread urea on silage ground in this weather. There is no rain forecast for the foreseeable but there does be a fair dew on the grass in the morning.
SAw a fella spread it late evening just around due fall and was thinking that wasn't a bad idea.
