16 at present, seems very expensive to just double it up… the ACR’s are about 30% of the cost but sure a double up without them would not be the best idea
I just breed my top 4/5 cows to out cross bulls and don't really worry too much. With the Cowmanager and a longer breeding season because of winter milk he's not over worked
Here is his mothers production
I’d of been guessing myself they’d of been best value… the NZ crowd Waikato are selling parlours as well and I’d say they’d be the cheapest by a mile but I’d also get the impression their service & repair is more so a case of “wish you the best of luck” 😂
Delaval are popular around here. Good machines.
When i was building my parlour anyone I asked about dairymaster, said avoid. They've a base not far from me
anyone trying to buy pro urea atm …very scarce around here lads looking for it and can’t get it ….normal urea tight as well but lots can ….lads getting fed up with it as coop has is tied in to buying a good chunk of pu in order to get sustainability payments …hopefully allowances will be made ….good few lads noticing it anyway now due to all the issues last year
Double ups are always expensive relative to their efficiency but if your at a level that doubling up a 16 is being considered rotary is another option.friend is putting in a 32 rotary and if you re hands on on the construction side its not a mad step on for their relative efficiency
Good few starting to throw out rotary's as well. Maintenance after a few years seems to be an issue.
A massive issue that is never mentioned.
Dairymaster rotary 20 or so miles from me was quoted 75k to do maintenance revamp and bits and pieces .............it was 8 years old.....…
whatever machine you go for do your homework first on who locally provides best after sales first of all and quality of work …I’ve a Gea parlour cannot fault. It ,dealer back up is very good but Gea as a company wouldn’t be a fan ….going on what I’ve see. Delaval ,Pearson,all,Gasgoine all do great parlours …personally wouldn’t touch a dairy master
32 bail rotary would be very slow I think, wouldn't go below 40 bail, a 24 unit would probably be more efficient? Can't expand a rotary either
no question
i read about a farm ripping out a 40 unit rotary and fitting two 24/48 parlours side by side for increased output and lower costs
Dairymaster is called a dairy disaster around here.
A 16 unit with no acrs,no jars,no dumpline, no air gates no nothing is the most efficient parlour in terms of labour,capital expenditure and running costs and water usage.the only extra I'd allow is a simple drafting gate for ai and fresh calvers etc .if there was yoke for blocking phone signal.......
disagree ….acrs have to be a must in parlour now …you need a good environment to work in and one that will attract a relief Milker to stick around
I don’t think you’d see many 200 cow herds with a rotary and with good reason 😂😂 a person would probably want to be milking 350+ in order to really justify one and even at that they are crazy money
a 16 unit doubled up to a 32 unit would milk 150 cows per hour. Don’t think it’s justifiable for the money involved though. To just get the auto wash put in would be great, think that would nearly be €10k though which probably won’t be done either
JJuSt for the fun of it it takes 15 secs to swap a cluster couple of seconds faster for cluster removers depending on technic.so in a 16 unit that's 4 minutes putting on clusters and I find it takes at least 2 minutes or more to swap the line so that dosent leave much time to put on the other side within your normal 7.5 minutes milking time.a good operator in straight 16 should milk 8 rows in hour which is 128 cows an hour.i m not telling anyone what to do I m just teasing out the figures a bit
Don't Think there's a need for acr up to 16 units tbh
All depends how much milk they're giving....
And how fast they give it ……
we've a couple of dribblers at the moment. pain in the hole.
Seen lads talk about this before. Does it cause much issue just to take her off when the last cow is finished and not be waiting on her. One here is 11 mins milking. For the last 4 mins she dropped one litre from one quarter.
You’d manage without them but surely they are worth it for both cow and milker.
If you value your hips and knees they are vital.
There’s no tearing around the pit checking what cows are milked or not. Having clusters hanging up ready to go on the next line is a no brainier.
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/report-examines-out-of-season-bonuses-from-dairy-processors/
I milked through this year, because milk price was good but i got no bonus.
The report confirmed what I thought, it was only something to stop me from being idle. In a normal milk price year, it's a loss maker
You should have went skiing or winter sun
we had one very bad last year. just wouldn't empty out in one quarter and she would go and lie down in the cubicle and let the milk go and destroy the cubicle, we culled her. We just try to get clusters on a slow milker asap.
The chief used to tie a weight out of the cluster in the old parlour reckoned it milked them out quicker. Used to pray she'd come in towards the end of the row and stop her at the top and stick on the unit again. So she'd be slowing down 2 rows. Anything for a couple of litres! Culling is probably best option as you say
I find just put a blank in the adjacent quarter that's taking the weight and they milk out quick enough, thankfully I don't have her issues at the moment, touch wood.
On theACRs, you wouldn't need the them in the summer but if you're on your own in the spring they'd be a gift.
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