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Hyundai Ioniq 6

silver_sky

I didn't see a thread for this and didn't want to clog up the Ioniq 5 or "Classic" Ioniq thread...

Ioniq 6 will be a GT-style saloon based on the Prophecy concept and is due late 2022.

"Prophecy" Concept Photos

Concept Walkaround

with DK Kim of CarSceneKorea YouTube (and now also Fully Charged). I think this video has less filler and more info than his Fully Charged one released today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unB_1otvK14

Spy Photos

I think that's the Ioniq 7 SUV next to it.

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John arse

New facelift Ioniq 6 prices - interesting! 🤔

BrianD3

yeah I was thinking as much about degradation as about failure. Although even doing 80k kms per year, I'd believe I'd have a fair amount of headroom with the Ioniq 6 LR for degradation related range reduction.

As a car, I prefer the Ioniq 6 to the Model 3 but there are obviously pros and cons. Model 3 - there is the ranger service but neither of the service centres are anywhere near me.

As well as no scheduled servicing, a plus point of the Model 3 is there is plenty of info online on how the cars are handling high mileages. There is apparentyly an Ioniq 5 in Korea that has done 400k miles with a battery replacement @ 87% capacity @ 360k miles but in general, Tesla seems to be more of a known quantity

The Model 3 also outsells the ioniq 6 by a huge margin in Ireland and i think elsewhere. There will be more Model 3 parts available from scrapyards in years to come.

I have a hunch that a new Model 3 replacement battery could be considerably cheaper than a new Ioniq 6 replacement battery.

CivilEx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123411700#Comment_123411700

I've never heard of the high voltage battery needing to be changed although you could probably find an outlier somewhere internationally. It's more likely that degradation of the battery in the longer term might bring the real world range below the level you need each day.

If the 15k health check is too frequent, the long range model 3 might be an option for you as well as there is no "mandatory" servicing, but perhaps there are "recommended" inspection intervals. M3 owners could answer that one. Irrespective of which car you go with, some maintenance will be needed at the milage levels you are doing.

As a former 520d owner used to high maintenance costs, I'm happy enough to bring my Ioniq 6 in every 15k for the financial peace of mind that you get with the extended warranty.

BrianD3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123411602#Comment_123411602

Sorry, just saw that post now. I'd be doing 80,000 km per year so bringing it in every 15k, even if it was free, would be a pain. Coolant change at 200k kms is not bad, I'm aware that it is an expensive job and that subsequent coolant changes are at much shorter intervals for some reason.

By that time the battery warranty would expired anyway so subsequent coolant changes may get skipped if they are expensive.

Have you or any other Ioniq 6 or 5 owner had any indication of how much a new battery might cost. They're not going to tell some randomer (me) who enquires but they might be more forthcoming with an owner.

BrianD3

Knowing how main dealers operate, 250 euros for a standardish EV service sounds about right, but the amount of work being done for that is negligible. Electric cars should need very little maintenance but someone has to pay for the main dealer workshop overheads. The Hyundai service schedule seems to be based around testing brake fluid, changing cabin filter and rotating tyres. How long does that take, not long, how much expertise does it require, not much.

I suppose it is a consequence of having traditional type dealerships throughout the country, there is a comfort in having these if you need work done on a Hyundai and given that many independent garages won't want to go near an EV, even for mechanical work that is similar to any car.

But the main dealer know they have a captive audience and then there's the whole maintaining the warranty nonsense, in theory you should be able to get any car serviced at any garage, in practice manufacturers may try to use this to wriggle out of paying warranty claims.

The cost of the traction battery obviously dwarfs the cost of routine servicing. If Hyundai was open and transparent about exactly how much is costs to replace a battery in 2025 then it could be used by consumers to make an informed choice and plan ahead. If a battery was, say, 15-20k and purchasing the car allowed the owner to save 5k in fuel and maintenance p.a., then buying the car instead of an ICE would be very sensible, OTOH, if the battery costs 50k, then different scenario entirely.

CivilEx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123410495#Comment_123410495

Vehicle health check every 15,000km is free, service every 30,000km is not. My last 30k service cost €175. Only part replaced was the cabin air filter. Coolant checked every 60k per @Del2005 and changed every 200,000km or 10 years, whichever comes first (user manual).

48,000km done in mine since Jan '24 with 95% of all charging done at home. Really low running costs overall for very high milage.

Comer1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123410151#Comment_123410151

What do they do for €250?

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123408737#Comment_123408737

Service is every 2 years or 30k, it was €250 for mine. Coolant is checked at 60k, I haven't heard of many issues with the coolant.

BrianD3

Might have been posted already but has anyone details on what servicing is currently required for the Ioniq 6 - intervals, what work done, costs. And in particular, what is the situation with battery coolant changes.

I may have to do a stupidly long commute of around 320 kms per day and a good EV like the Ioniq 6 would save me thousands in fuel per year compared to an ICE. However if I'll be paying a main dealer to have it "serviced" several times a year "to maintain the warranty" that would be a disadvantage compared to say, Tesla .

I'm aware that the battery warranty would be gone within a couple of years anyway for both Tesla and Hyundai but the Hyundai car warranty is much better @ 5 years unlimited mileage.

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123289076#Comment_123289076

Found it. Thanks

WicklowTiger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123276866#Comment_123276866

Had this after a software update in my Ioniq 5. Next time you input a destination, expand the options in the panel for alternative routes (fastest, most efficient, etc.) There's a tick box somewhere there to include a charging station automatically. Untick and it goes back to normal.

Del2005

Every time I use the navigation it routes me to random charging stations. Even if I put in a charging station as a destination and I've plenty of range it'll still stick a random charging station into the route, usually a useless 22kW one, and no matter what I do I can't delete it. When I 1st got the car it would tell me that I couldn't make the trip and offer charging stations on route, now it just picks a nearby charger and then starts pre heating the battery, so I have to cancel the navigation.

I saw on another site a similar problem and they were advised to unpick "include charging stations", I've checked the settings in the car and app but can't find anything that would let me turn this off.

CivilEx

So I received a notification in my Ioniq 6 last November relating to muting the EU mandated "bong bong" every time you go over any speed limit by 3 km/hr (even if the car has mistakenly read a lower limit on a side road). In my car, long pressing the mute button on the right side of the steering wheel did nothing - the "bongs" kept coming and the OTA in Nov did not solve it.

I finally got around to bringing it into my local Hyundai dealer today. They updated the control software and the speed limit warning mute button now works - both in the native navigation and in Android Auto. It still resets itself every time you start the car, but at least the mute button now works for the remainder of the journey.

If you are an Ioniq 6 owner driven to distraction by the warnings, your local Hyundai dealer can now sort this for you.

Exiled Rebel

I hate the arse on the EV6...on the other hand I like the look of the Ioniq 6 with the upgraded alloys.

CMOTDibbler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889472#Comment_122889472

I'd have to agree with you there. Very disappointed in the Ioniq 6 design. Thought after the Ioniq 5 avant garde looks, it'd be special. But nope, just another jelly mould. EV6 is far nicer looking.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889415#Comment_122889415

Eh no, I'd have the ioniq6 a distant 3rd in this comparison I'm afraid

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889323#Comment_122889323

The I6 😀

I like the i6 think it looks great but think the i5 is boring.

I like the KIA EV6 too though.

Buddy Bubs

Yeah ev6 not as aerodynamic with regard to cd factor as it looks and certainly not as good as the ioniq 6.......but I know well which looks better and which one would get my money!

cython

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122888919#Comment_122888919

Ostensibly yes, the Ioniq 6 would seem to be quite a bit more of efficient than the EV6, with the respective WLTP ranges for each being ~614km vs ~528km with similar sized batteries (77kWh). Exact WLTP figures seem to vary based on trim level, wheel sizes, ETC. but almost 20% more range is a tangible difference, IMO.

AMKC

Is the I6 a better car than the KIA EV6 efficency wise?

Del2005

Just got a call about a recall. Not sure if it's the ICCU from earlier in the year or something else, I thought they mentioned a shaft but the I'd my volume to low and forgot to ask after I turned it up, and there is a software update to be installed.

Hopefully no more speed limit warnings.

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122876897#Comment_122876897

There's another OTA to try to fix issue with muting the speed warning. If that update doesn't work then you have to get a dealer update, that's a notification that we are getting another update.

CivilEx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122873635#Comment_122873635

I haven't heard of a recall here yet. The only issue in recent days for me was a notification in the car saying that if the disable speed limit warning was not working by holding down the mute button, then go to a Hyundai dealer to get an ISLA update done to remedy it.

Del2005

The USA is doing a recall for an issue with the ICCU. I couldn't see anything about an Irish or European recall do we have the same recall?

CivilEx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122778712#Comment_122778712

The disable speed limit audible warning in the update did not work for me and lots of other Ioniq 6 users on UK forums. We will have to wait for the next update to sort out the bug I suppose.

My experience on preconditioning is that it will start about 30 to 35 mins (depending on how cold it is) before you get to the charger you are navigating to. Well worth doing - I never spend more than 15 mins at an ESB 200kW or Ionity and I'm back to 80%.

Del2005

Just got the OTA to disable the speed limit warning. How long do you have to press mute for it to work? My mute button is working as it'll silence the radio but no matter how long I hold it the speed limit warning doesn't turn off.

Is there any way to know how fast the pre conditioning heats the battery pack up? I've to use public charging so need to make sure that the car is ready to charge when I get to the station.

CivilEx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122659215#Comment_122659215

I'm not sure about efficiency on the roads of Norway and Sweden :) but in Ireland, the real world efficiency of the Ioniq 6 is around 13.9kWh/100km or a range of 540km when 25% of that is on motorway. As with all EV's the range will be lower in the winter and lower again if all motorway driving.

The boot is shallow as you say - so it won't suit a lot of families, but it takes plenty of bags on the way to the airport anyway...

BrianD3

I love the look of these but not sure I could live with the boot and the boot opening. If the car was super efficient I might forgive lack of practicality but is the car that efficient. It's undoubtedly good but is it as good as the Model 3 - which has a better boot than the Ioniq 6.

I've lost count of the number of Model 3s I've seen on the road but the Ioniq 6 is a rare beast, I've seen one on the road.

Even comparing the efficiency with that of the Megane etech, a cheaper and much blockier car, Bjorn got virtually identical efficiency (at both 90 and 120 km/h) for the Ioniq at 9 degrees as he did for the Megane at 13 degrees.

CivilEx

Well done Blake, I enjoyed your review! Good work on the channel guys http://www.youtube.com/%40evplatform @derekreilly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbbhPo8v6Vw

denismc

I don't do the 15 km check as it's an absolute waste of time, I do 30k km a year so that means leaving the car twice a year.

We have an ID3 and the service interval is every 2 years regardless of mileage, that seems a little more reasonable.