Price depends on the quality of them but I’d definitely bring them to the mart, feck that crack of some miserable tight arse standing in your yard looking for cheap cattle, you’re guaranteed payment in the mart.
€5 is easy got for half decent stock I’d be bringing them to the mart, you could’nt be disappointed leaving at the moment.
Mart. Definitely mart.
Have 5 weanling bulls weighted them yesterday the oldest is may and the youngest is end of June. 3 of the are around 400kg one is 370 and the lightest lad is 360kg. I am planning on letting these lads out for a few months try and get them to 500kg would they want a few kgs a day along with grass. Also what weight would they need to be bring them into the shed to start finishing if I wanted to bring them through?
If you’re going finishing I’d start feeding now, give a bucket (10kg) a day split morning and evening, every 7-10 days add 1/2 bucket. Unless you’re stuck for space don’t let them out
I thought the would do better out for 6-10weeks to clean up and stretch. they are currently getting 3kg daily once a day of weanling nuts. 16% protein. I assume they are better on the 16% for them time being.
Only issue with being out is you’re going to have to worm drench plus any diet change. I’d keep in and increase to 4kg give a vitamin drench. 16% as they’re still growing
Ideally you’d house them at 550kg plus to start finishing. I wouldn’t bother mealing them if they’ve good grass ahead of them. if they got a good do they would be ready for the shed in mid July/august.
I suspect you have been feeding tgem.3kgs ir more if ration during the winter. I be inclined to turn out and reset there stomach. However you have to decide are you going to slaughter under 16 months. 6 weeks will reset there stomachs.
I think they would be tight to make u-16 months. But probably be closer to u-18 months. When you say reset the stomach you mean let them out on grass with no ration or feed at all?
Ya cattle go stale. If you intend hanging at 10-20 months you are looking at pre/post Christmas I woukd see no need for ration until mid July at the earliest. You coukd feed 2-3 kgs on grass until housing first week in September.
And what would you do if you wanted to get them to 550kg and sell them off then? would be better to let them out and give 3kg of meal. I am undecided what to do with them as I haven't killed any cattle in a long time I might need the money in July and have to sell them would like to get them into a good weight 500 - 550 x 4euro a kg would leave them at 2000 - 2200
Problem with that level of feeding is they will become puffy and finishers will know they were on ration. They will know as well that they have limited feeding potential and will adjust there buying price. As well traditionally store bulls do not sell well mid summer maybe it will be different this year.
If you intend not finishing I be selling now ( definitely the heavier lads)and replacing if you wanted to.
Try them in the mart over the next few weeks. They’re the ideal weight for summer grazers. If not happy with the price you could bring home and let out. If good quality (as you generally have) the could make €1600-€2000
2630 for a 690kg Angus cow today in Delvin
3.81/kg. You couldn’t afford to go straight to the factory at the moment
Would that cow be going on for further feeding or will she be slaughtered tomorrow? as she would not make money in the factory with the current price that's quoted. Just on agri land there with a 50% killout and a price of 6.72 she makes 2320. I am fatting some culls at the minute and they are on hi maize mix some of them are around 650kg but some of them are 14 black white head cows and some si cows. The rest are smaller dairy cross cows unfortunately. Fill probably have them for up t a month as I have the feeding for them.
If she was a young cow she could be slaughtered in NI as a heifer. However whether North or South she be hanging within a few day.
cows seem to be getting dearer week in week out - wonder will it come to a halt at some point
Id say prices will remain strong for a year or 2. The likes of South America have probably started getting loads of heifers in calf and that will be feeding in to the market in the next 18 months or so thus reducing the prices for our markets. That's my view anyways.
At present supermarkets have not passed on price rises for beef yet. Now they had a substantial margin. In the last few years potatoes has doubled in price. Chicken meat rose during the last increase in grain its beefs turn now. At present there margin is preventing them from taking a loss. They probably still have a margin. However expect it to rise by 20-30% in the next few months. That will reduce demand as white meat and fish will be.more competitive.
I expect some sort of a pull in late May June. However it may be an attempt to stabilise the price rather than drop it.
When this rise in price started I taught it woukd stop at 6.50 and they would pull it back to 5.50 in the Autumn. Now a base a bit above 7 is not out of the question. 6-6.5 or above could be the autumn price. I pity anyone without cattle in the yard.
Biggest issue for processors is a lot of cattle going through the marts that previously went straight to them. In most cases they are paying above what they quote along with there own fees, transport and a few days feeding.
They will have to encourage these guys back. I always remember a quote I heard about beef.
" the day the lad with the box with 3-5 cattle stops processors are in trouble"
Quotes will keep increasing while that man heads to the marts to the extent it is happening at present
4k plus was paid for a heifer in Kilkenny yesterday. I'm waiting for info if it was for killing or breeding. I was told she was for killing.
Would seem heavy cattle in very short supply
4780 and around the tonne mark
Am I right in saying that the factory price grid was never updated to reflect the higher base prices? Surely it should be on a % basis.
It was set up incorrectly first day. No QA on and O- grade cattle first day. O- is still inky 12c. P grade cattle are at least 30c below tge base and no QA.
ThThe demannd us for HE and especially AA cattle. The O and R- grade kilking 250-330kgs are innn demand for steaks. 90% of the rest is either minced or sold for catering as opposed to the to end of the market.
Adam will be on soon about it.
I’m cutting back on sucklers cow, I have a couple of calved cows with calves at foot to sell.
I’m just wondering would it be better to sell the calves in the calf ring and the cows in the dry cow ring ?
or would it be best to sell them as a team
I’m thinking of splitting them, would the cows want to be dried off before selling them or would it make any difference if they have big elders on them and balling
cows are LM/Sim cows with CH calves at foot approx 2 weeks old.
Split them IMO as that is what the lads that buys them will probably do. Would you not consider fattening the cows yourself. Even let the calves under them until 10 weeks of age, wean them and fatten the cows
thanks Bass you have given me options to ponder over now 🤔
Can never understand suckler farmers ( if they have any way decent land) not finishing culls. Them cows will fatten very fast. If you had a couple of bucket fed calveswith them used to eating ration you get them coming and picking at it before you wean them.
any suckler farmers I know all finish their culls. I’ve never sold a store cull in my life.
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