Plus if the NBP didn't exist that would be another 100,000 people potentially on Starlink using up more of the shared bandwidth and/or causing areas to be considered full and no longer taking new connections.
If everyone used Starlink, the price would go up. In UK it is €91per month, and in US €116 per month. The capacity has to be rationed to avoid overloading the satellites, and this is done by setting the price higher in regions of higher population and takeup. Ireland already had a high level of fibre in urban and most rural areas even before NBP, allowing Starlink to offer very competitive pricing here. Without fibre this would not have been possible.
According to the report linked earlier, Bulgaria and Cyprus have almost twice the take up of Starlink than Ireland and yet their prices are similar to our own.
The average salary in Bulgaria is around a third of Ireland, and in Cyprus about a half. If Starlink prices there are similar to Ireland, the locals will find them substantially more punitive relative to their income vs Irish customers. Hence the level of bandwidth rationing is probably closer to what is achieved is US or UK with a much higher price point. Ireland gets away with a lower price point despite high income levels, because fibre penetration is high, population density is low, and hence demand for Starlink is low.
How much is starlink? I'm currently paying 38 with vodaphone for fiber, also was able to sign up my mobile for unlimited data/calls/texts for 15 a month so good deal.
I wouldn't piss on any product from that cnut
in the length of time it took you to write this post, you could have went to the website and got all the information you require, without having to share you feeling towards the CEO of the company.
I suggest you look in to the CEO of every company, of every product you use on a daily basis, and adjust to your needs.
In the length of time it took you to write this you could have just posted how much you pay for your starlink setup
Its Black and White on the middle of the Starlink home page. I can understand anyone wanting to check if there are any special offers but don't see any point wasting peoples time asking for info you can look up yourself.
Lol first time on an Internet forum? Heaven forbid someone would ask a question 😂 I'm sorry for insulting dear leader
To be fair it's easy to say Musk is a tool and avoid his products he's just the most high profile of the many tools out there.. they would probably all love his stage at the moment.. plenty of dodgy unethical companies out there id imagine making most of the products we consume every day..
I'd be well known for throwing my toys out of the pram and I'd love to be able to say I canceled Starlink because of my hate of Musk, but my love of a good solid internet connection in a location that there is no other provider prevents that.
I'd also note that Starlink was enabled in Ukraine at the beginning of the war and remains unavailable in Russia.
He's personally intervened in having it turned off in various areas in Ukraine. He's also spoken to Putin directly himself.
For full context. Starlinks have also been found in use on the Russian side right across the front . 🤷♂️. He's not saviour , remotely.
Will be ditching Starlink finally and going with an NBI provider, cant countenance giving the space nazi money anymore and absolutely willing to suffer the inconvenience of potential disconnects as a result.
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At least they are looking at alternatives …
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/eu-negotiates-starlink-replacement-for-ukraine-with-four-satellite-operators/
Amazon will probably have their system up and running before thiseven happens
Chinese "Starlink" on the way
SpaceSail, also called “Qianfan,” the “Thousand Sails Constellation,” or “G60 Starlink”, is a low-earth orbit (LEO) satellite broadband service that aims to offer worldwide Internet coverage in the coming years.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/telecoms/585963-chinese-starlink-launching-in-over-30-countries-and-south-africa-could-be-on-the-menu.html
Could Europe's Eutelsat help to replace Starlink in Ukraine?
"OneWeb terminals, however, cost as much as $10,000, plus a monthly subscription price. Starlink charges Ukrainian users a one-time payment of $589 in addition to a monthly subscription of $95-$440, depending on the usage."
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/could-europes-eutelsat-help-replace-starlink-ukraine-2025-03-05/
And you're a not making Elon Musk richer which is always a bonus especially now.
I'm glad that Starlink has worked out for you, despite your initial skepticism. Given its proven performance I still believe it to be an excellent infill solution, as I forecast at the pilot stage. If anything, it has far exceed expectations in terms of capacity and reach. (I am no fanboy for Elon Musk, but I do respect his drive and technological brilliance. His politics, less so…) You can trust no network provider with your data, if it is in any way sensitive. A private VPN/encryption solution is as secure as it gets and should be sufficient for most. (Public VPN solutions have their uses, but increasing security is not one of them.)
What initial scepticism? I never had scepticism. It's good product.
It absolutely does not beat fibre. And if you've fibre to your door get that instead.
As for security I wouldn't trust the man with anything. He's shown to be an unreliable to put it mildly character. And there's a large amount of thought that he used the starlink connections to tamper with the US elections. It's no wonder countries are dumping state awarded contracts with the company.
Fibre is cheaper, more stable, and our state have control within it. I use starlink only as a stop gap. And imagine broadband pretty much going to the wall.
As I said never a sceptic I know how the product works and what it offers. In a normal companies hands it would be stellar and trustworthy. Aint normal.
Where would be the best place to source a reputable and reliable installer?
Many thanks.
Where in the country are you based? It's mostly a DIY install but any local TV aerial installer can put it as high as possible with no obstructions in any direction to the sky, typically on a chimney but lower locations will work with the odd drop out. Even on the ground in the middle of a back garden may be ok
I know a few, where are you
The new generation 4 units are just ground install. You can buy additional pole mount etc for them. But from perspective starlink are cutting costs with the latest equipment. Old ones used to come with pole mounts and were motorised to adjust. The new ones you just lay on flat surface from box and move around manually using the app for guidance.
Its a very simple install for anyone. You can then get someone to mount it to a wall if you like while maintaining line of sight.
I would however just install yourself first on a table or patio and see how you get on.
Have you Fibre available already?
A flat roof is also a handy install location.
Yup cables went in just under a year ago
Thanks for the advice all, no flat roof available. No major obstructions but would like to mount it on external gable which is a decent height.
I must have mixed you up. During the initial rollout someone said that Starlink's main application would be to support Tesla's driverless cars, and that it was not suitable for home use. Thought it was you…
As to how it works, I have yet to see any significant detail in the public domain. I have read this assessment of the transport level protocol, but this gives nothing on the space segment protocol or routing algorithms. There is an outline of the overall architecture in this document, that indicates that all internal routing, other than ingress and egress, are now entirely within the space segment.
Have you come across more informative documentation?
