Talking about two different jobs altogether.
Beef and dairy farming is chalk and cheese.
I do both and I help look after my neighbours suckler farm as he is sick the last two years.
Not complaining but the amount of work and the costs in dairy are brutal. If you don't make money you won't stay at it too long. For instance my ESB and detergent bill was higher than my neighbours meal bill
Maybe I misinterpreted you and sorry if I did but the amount of times I've had conversations with dairy farmers and it might come up in conversation about some drystock farmer selling cattle in a mart for good money or he having very good weights in his cattle and most of the time all you hear is why doesn't he let his land to a dairy farmer and stop farming or similar smart comments about dairying is the only game in town
I'm hearing about some very big dairy farmers not paying their way. A lad near me bought a load of straw and the seller threatened to return with lorry the following morning to reload the bales. He got paid then.
Its great to see lads getting a fair return for their work. The era of cheap food is dwindling away.
Sold a few empty cows in Kilkenny today. Got ad-lib meal and silage since early January. One other cow made €2,000 weighing 775kg, €2,140 670 kg, €2,100 660kg. FR cows
Great price , what breeding in her
Montbeliarde
Kilkenny today almost 5e per kg. They were smashers but a total rob.
Fellas would want to toughen down a small bit. A uk/USA trade deal is looming and Keir Starmer is a bit of a roll over,
You also have blue tongue next door.
Now I'm one of those forecasters of doom and a bit negative, so I could be wrong. But what would those weanlings want to make when finished
A vanity project.
He might be after getting €3500 for a bull he bought this time last year. He’s still doing ok if that’s the case
We had 2 ch bull weanlings off black whitehead cows in carnaross Tuesday night, ok quality but not fancy either, they weighed 220kgs and 245kgs, blown away with the prices 1050 euro and 1250 euro, 5 euro a kilo, also seen 2 golden yellow charolais bull weanlings sold 245 kgs and 250kgs, they made 1500 euro and 1510 euro which is 6 euro a kilo, it's brilliant to see, but I have to ask what in the name of jaysus is going on, really, what's driving this, and grass yet to start growing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was bidding for those sort of cattle in Skibbereen last Friday.…I tried to bid upto ,€4kg.... auctioneer didn't even see me ....he had so many bids coming in at him.... they went to 4.50kg ....so it's not auctioneers puffing they literally have fellas who want them and cost is irrelevant.…someone's gonna get caught m I just hope won't be me.
have suckler men quit dehorning. I’d say 50% of what I’ve bought in the last 6 months have horns of some sort.
some money for a light but stylish cow, sixmilebrideg
Bidding on more of them yellow charolais that I missed out on last week yesterday again in Skibbereen....at 4.50 eur/kg last week.... yesterday 350kg made 1760....or over €5.00 kg.... I was literally in shock 🤣🤣
i see numbers are tightening in some marts again
I've given up bidding on anything CH coloured tbh, they start ahead of where I'd finish and literally anything is possible after that. I bought 2 cattle all week and 1 of them is a right good price I think and there's a good chance the trade will get another lift next week. A nice 225kg September born suckler bred AA @ €930 and a dairy bred February born AA 250kg @ €990. I said I wasn't going to buy anything only suckler bred stock this time around but it's nearly impossible at my budget atm. I'm not overly gone on the second lad but it's time to be getting them bought and he'll make up the count. Other year's I'd hold out another while but it's literally dearer by the day the last while.
There was a mousey coloured CH down as an AA at the end, a middle of the road store 250kg made €1140. I've resigned myself that there's going to be no money earned off these sort of cattle atm bar a miracle. It's a case of damage limitation imo and buying something that might grow into money in the future. What's being paid for the nice coloured suckler bulls at any weight is outrageous, bar they are going to very good land or for the bull beef job I can't see how they'll turn a pound. On more middling ground they wouldn't come into cost in the backend if much of a slip occurred.
I am gonna keep a few less for the next few months and do a bit of reseeding and less fertilizer. See how things are later in the summer.
The way I see it, the kill is c.38k for a good while now. They can't keep this up. Forward cattle are being killed constantly which is bound to have a knock on effect. IMHO I don't think cattle are going to fall off a cliff anytime soon or for the rest of the year for that matter.
@kk.man I would think you are correct.. anything with a bit of cover is going to the hook at the minute. Has to keep the pressure on them to keep the prices high.
As a lad said to me recently when he was looking around the liarage in the factory recently he had more weight on than some of the cattle so he got out of there quickly before they got any ideas.
But if this is the case when will the real squeeze come? You would imagine numbers can’t stay comming at this rate
I don't know, but there is a point where high prices will quell demand.. my guess is we are close but not there yet...
As Wrangler always says on here, High Prices take care of High Prices.
Spiralling out of control!!!!!
It doesn't seem long since it took a very good sort of calf to make 300 - 350 !!!!!
But shure the reason for high prices is scarcity. It wasn't viable at the old pricing and then there are all the regulations reducing numbers.
it has to come to a balance soon. If prices keep rising and there’s a sudden drop it’s going to leave a lot of people in trouble. I seen aa out of jerseys making over e4 a kg yesterday and beef lads giving e500 an acre rent.
I mentioned the uncertainty with everything from the kill numbers to trump acting the boll1x and I was told I was just being cold about the whole thing. I hope I’m wrong but if there’s too many lads burned it’s going to be a different situation selling next year.
The fooking carry on 2 and 3 yrs ago where every in calf cow was factoryed was a scandal of the highest order and not one said a word about it. Coming home to roost now with numbers and scarcity.
Sorry wrong thread.
Have a lad coming to yard to look at cattle, what's the going rate for continentals between 400 and 500kgs. I'm thinking around €4.50/kg, realistic?
bring them to the mart
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