I see a good future in it, I’m still young (I think)
Plenty of good operators will clear 2 k a cow this year
that was always the case with stock being outwintered
Did I read on the SFP letter this week, that even farmers that outwinter need 16 week slurry storage.
I know a lot of lads with a few cattle, that have no housing.
Up to a few years ago I worried about rules and regulations, splash plate, slurry storage, 10 metres from a ditch, chlorine free, limits on P and N. Ect.
i break so many rules nowadays. That I can't keep track of them so, I don't worry
Planning going in there for them
I'd say Murphy hasn't a clue. He's not worried about nitrates, keeps talking about the large milk pool, 7 factories, bla, bla, bla. He learned his lesson last year about speaking his mind.
wasn’t there strong rumours that the browns in east cork were getting out of cows and solar panels going in
A strong milk wont stop the tide ,no young fella in their right mind is going to put up with the daft range of control and red tape their is in dairy farming coming from the Dept of Ag .
We have stuck with the farming this long it would be a pity to trow in the towel now that the tide has turned. Even the Kerry ceo Pat Murphy now admits that young lads won't milk without a strong milk price a change from last year when he said that with 5 cents margin we were doing OK.
That's what I thought
you need to be near a esb substation and even at that ,some stations are over loaded already with wind and solar .
Most of the lads convasing for solar panels are only carpet baggers. You have no idea who you will end up dealing if it ever gets the go ahead.
They're not hard to find, every auctioneer has a few
Send on the number
Why not call them up then?
The Inflation aim is 2% and not 6%. Run the figures for farming the land and put in all labour, building and machinery costs and see what the figures look like. I've an outside farm and I'd leave it off to solar no bother.
The GAA came out to distance themselves from that and IFJ had to issue a correction. Stephen Robb from IFJ just cheerleading the industrial takeover as per.
I give you that the price increases may be linked to some loss of farmland
Probably unrelated but when I hear solar company "purchasing" land, alarm bells go off. I'd encourage you to do a small bit of research on them and if they trace back to Offaly, the solar is a lie, with worse intentions to follow.
These energy multinationals are straight as a meander.
We’re haunted here with solar farm fellas calling in… I crunched the numbers 👇🏼
they’re on about €1,300/acre growing @ 3% which after 40 years would be €4,240/acre by year 40
let’s say inflation is 6%/year during those 40 years, to be getting the equivalent in year 40 as you got in year 1 you’d need to be getting €13,371/acre but as I said it’s actually €4,240/acre you’d be getting
I know a lot of people interested in solar panels but something that goes over their heads is how compounded inflation is your enemy over 40 years… I’ve a modest home, cost about £30,000 to be built in the early 1980’s… for someone to buy the site and build the house today you’d be talking about €500,000… then take into account the farm itself we have was bought for £4,800 in the 1940’s, a modest bungalow in the 1980’s cost about 6 times what the farm cost in the 1940’s
there’s guys around here now that would pay close to €500/acre for rented land now, a retiring dairy farmer could get every penny of that tax free… at €1,100/acre for the solar panels, if you’d a good off farm income by the time you’d have the tax paid you may only be doing about the same as a fella with the land leased tax free to another dairy farmer
It's way better than trees. I'd consider solar myself. See what the GAA are doing now with it. It all increases the price of milk/beef/farm produce.
The way I see it is that farmers haven't been paid a fair price for producing food for so long now that I don't see the problem with supplying energy instead. 1k an acre on a 40 year lease I believe. Sounds good to me.
putting land like that under panels should be considered a crime
update on the land for sale beside- a solar power company has a bid in of 25000 acre
it’s probably some of the best land in Ireland- a lot of great land locally now under solar panels
It's not a start up. It's a top class farming couple nearing retirement age who's family have taken a direction that's not on this farm. Nothing to see here but top class operators, top class people.
All new sheds, looks like there was corners cut on the buildings alright. It looks like a dairy startup that didn't work out. 400 cows on 200 acres is not sustainable. Fine place for 150 cows plus replacements though. Expensive part of the country with short winters and some of the best land. Not too many lads mad for cows around there though. I'd say the guide price isn't far off.
I’m only the help so it’s not up to me unfortunately 😂😂 the whole farm here is drained, I can’t imagine how much worse it could be if it was never drained though, I’d have to question how effective the drains that are there already actually are
I’d often for curiosity be looking at farms for sale, this is a 216 acre farm in Middleton, 15 acres of forestry so 201 acres of actual land and it’s non residential… the buildings are new but you can see they cut corners with no locking barriers etc… saw a newspaper article that said it’s €4.5 million, by the time a fella would have fees paid, a house built, herd of cows bought it would probably be coming closer to €5.5m… surely it won’t make the asking price https://www.daft.ie/commercial-property-for-sale/ballyspillane-midleton-co-cork/5964333
The thing with wet land is that there is no land that cant be drained. It will cost anything from 1000 to 2000 an acre. If you PM me I can give you the number of a lad that will dry any land. He has an unusual way of doing it will dry any field.
Heifers here don’t get any ration after Christmas Eve. Fat heifers are a disaster to calve.
I agree with you from a farming point of view. I more saw it as an investment potential. Tourism/lifestyle project. Or a cheap way to get maps for nitrates. Time to get all your money out of the stock market maybe..... who knows...
Haha maybe 😂😂 I think Visatorro is probably right, heifers are definitely on the fatter side of things. The ration was only cut off the first few days of February, the heifers started calving then the 15th of February
I was very interested reading about the big farm in south kerry for sale that I saw you all discussing, I had seen it advertised. Our own farm here is 230 acres, there’s about 10 acres of good land, 110 acres of bad/mediocre land and about 110 acres of pretty much diabolically bad land. I’m no expert but my 2 cents is that a fella would be better off buying half the acreage of good land instead of buying hundreds of acres that’s only fit for trees
I have a 13 year old cow just calved down there unassisted for her 12th lactation. She's still a picture of health. She's been supplying an average of 525 KgMs over the last 11 years. Ebi of zero and fertility of -14.
Where are the calves getting stuck? Just give them more time. Maybe your heifers are too posh to push 😉
