sorry James everything I have said is fact
Cody left Kilkenny hurling in a terrible state
Even after your own comments you question lyng
Molloy done ok against cork just ok today he not so good is he a county midfielder I don’t think so
Reading other comments everyone is questioning the tactics and the manager and his use off Doyle told me he not good enough
The funny thing is this question off the s/c this is only a excuse rather than say some off our players not good enough
If the kerry man is good enough put him in centre back his position and see how he does
Just because what I have said is fact and you don’t like it doesn’t mean I am bitter
I have as much love for hurling as any kilkenny man the biggest problem with kilkenny hurling is people pride like yours can’t accept we are way off the top he have only being hanging around because Leinster hurling so bad
People need to realise when we drew with Carlow in the championship showed where we are
You talk about disrespecting players
Look at the disrespect you should towards one off the greatest off all time in playing and management
I played hurling against Ollie he was one off the greatest in every way
All I pinted out was the way he brought kilkenny hurling from no place to all Ireland champions
Paddy Buggy resigned as chairman because he could not see kilkenny win all Ireland he said that in a interview compare that where lyng has brought use he got job from county board with at least 5 people with better cv
The cards weren’t the difference we were bet hands down
From an outsider (Tipp), I wouldn't just dismiss todays game due to the 4 red cards, yes the 2nd half was a total write off as Tipp didn't know what to do with the ball and Kk had to go ultra defensive, but focus on the 1st half.
Every team can have an off day, but Kk style of play was long ball in, and at that didn't put their best high fielder TJ Reid on the edge of the square vs a very green full back line.
In contrast Tipp with 2 new players in the full forward line played in diagonal balls as they know it suits their personnel better. Kk took an age to score from play. The players may not be there, but tactically they were outdone.
Ah yeh, I'd agree with all of that but it turned into such a farce in the second half its hard to make sense of any of it so soon after the game. No doubt though we showed ourselves to be a very badly coached team again and as you say apart from all the brainless stuff (again) there doesnt seem to be any kind of a game plan at all.
Too easy say you can't analyse that game because of the reds. Blown off the field in the first half. Puck outs, both defending and on our own were a shambles. No tracking of off the ball runners, no movement inside, no creativity and either no plan or a group of players who are not clear on the plan.
Year 3 and it's simply not good enough.
It's not all on management as the players are actually very very poor across the field and they seem incapable of thinking on the fly but ultimately the buck stops with Lyng and it's worse we're getting
Don’t think he deserved a straight red no
O Connor and deegan going at it on the ground and no cards given for that
Once he sent off the tipp player he lost the plot completely
It wasn’t a dirty game and tipp were popping the ball around us so much it never really got a chance to be a physical game as we were chasing shadows
Tipp could have, should have annihilated us today in the first 10 mins.but dropped the ball or did something stupid everytime. Posters are right and for once we all agree Lyng and his team have to go as well as the county board who insisted on picking him for another year despite no progress being made in the previous two years.I’m absolutely disgusted with the whole set up, we’ll talk later.
True second yellow yes straight red no
Ah come on, you could argue they were all avoidable but Jordan Molloy was very unlucky in my opinon,i t was an attempt at a hook that went slightly wrong and there wasn't much in Careys either, hardly acting the gurrier . Blanchfield's was stupid alright but not the worst offence I've seen either. I didn't like Kenny going down so easily but I think most of todays red cards were down to the incident in the Galway-Limerick game last night.
It ruined the game anyway and its impossible to analyse either teams performance properly really.
Carey was silly but he did get a clip across the face guard going down for the ball
A bad day.
I just hope the three deserved red cards won’t be used as an excuse to cover that in general, once again, we were far behind the opposition in terms of first touch, S&C, shooting from distance, forward movement and ball forward. When it was a contest before it became farce, Tipp were toying with us.
A word needs to be had with the three lads sent off, every one of them was avoidable and were simply down to acting the gurrier. The Tipp sending off wouldn’t have have been a red either only for a theatrical dive, if that’s our behaviour then Lyng needs to have words.
I have no words anymore that was so bad it was like we had a whole different 15 players out on the field compared to last sat
Tipp did what they liked no aggression from us no pace no off the ball running no option for the players in possession
No fight no player helped the man next to him to even try win a ball no touch no control no adjustments from the line to counteract tipp
It looked like we did not prep for what tipp were going to bring at all
One of the worst days as a Kilkenny follower. No plan, no disclipine, no players coming through. Radical changes needed.
Don't read too much into that game. Too many players got the line to do that, and remember, it's the league!
The sendings of meant it’s impossible to analyse anything from that game. But have KK progressed any nearer the big three Munster teams? Doesn’t look like it
Our discipline was shocking today. All 3 red cards fully deserved ( pure stupidity from Mikey Carey) as was the tipp one.
We haven't a hope in hell of beating Limerick..I expect Limerick to name a strong team and beat us like Tipp did today. Maybe a relegation might wake up the county board because we are miles off what is required to win an All ireland. We deserve to be the way we are
Kk have being fairly shocking and thats two home defeats and Limerick could relegate them next weekend. As we all know kk are a one of the worst coached teams in the country. Its the fact that we had some very good hurlers that kept us very competitive. I've heard the horror stories that have gone on in training.last year they were happy to have no proper coach, Peter o Donovan doing under 12 drills,nothing done on puckouts, movement and tactics. Herity had hogan's puckouts bang on compare that to Michael rice doing the puckouts for Murphy. I accept tipp have a lot done but kk are definitely in reverse and results will back it up. Huge re think is years over due
We know for a fact this Kilkenny team is not beating Limerick without Blanchfield and Carey gone out of team next weekend.
Relying on other results now not to get relegated to 1b.
maybe that’s the wake up KK need.
If Clare beat Cork today we are in big trouble
1-3 from play put of 1-10 in the first half from home. Tipp, for comparison, have got 0-5 from 2-13.
2-8 to 1-3 from play. And even at that, Billy Ryan gave one of the most blatant throws in the game to assist for the goal.
Tipp miles ahead of us in most areas. Physically bullying us out of it. Yeah, we’re missing a few, but that doesn’t excuse the repeated poor performances. I have a feeling this is going to be Derek’s Lyng’s last year, because it’s quite clear while we lack the players, we also lack the coaching in open play, and in your third season it should be better than that.
We're really seeing how important Lawlor is for us too. Not a lot to take from the first half. Took us an age to score from play.
Any he's still putting more effort in then some, Dunne got his goal but before that him and Drennan offered absolutely nothing
What an awful first half performance from us. Completely off the pace in terms of doing the basics and we're playing stone age hurling compared to Tipp. Can't blame the coaching for everything, some of the decision making of the players is truly shocking. Mossy Keoghan has 3 points from play but he's really the only player who has done alright and even he missed a goal chance that he should have buried.
Long ball to TJ again and again 😭
Just in the Park here here what are they doing with a 38 year old man injured doing on the pitch. TJ can't move
Not much positives to take from that half. Everyone looks off
Problems scoring from play again
KK must be the most un-coached team in the country. 20 bad balls to forwards so far.
