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Fencing costs

Newbie2023

Hi all,

I have approx 1700M of boundary fencing to do. Newly cleaned up land where ditches have been cut back and drains cleaned. All I’ll have on the land will be cattle who are generally quite quiet and content. Problem is my neighbour who has sheep and cattle who are very fond of wandering and has no fencing on their side. What is peoples suggestions on best options?

I was planning sheep wire and 2 strands of barbed. Contractor quoting €4/M for erecting with me supplying all materials. Is this excessive? Rough costs on it at the moment is approx €15K so any suggestions to reduce greatly appreciated.

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Gillespy

Not stones or rock but have to deal with solid pencil when driving corner/strainer posts. Have hired out a mini digger with a post hole auger and that worked well. Another time they didn’t have an auger so dug the hole, filled it in again and drove the post in that spot. Solid as could be.

minerleague

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831794#Comment_121831794

I'd be very slow to pipe an open drain, first the cost of pipes and it will take a lot more stone than you think, second it won't take surface water away as quick. I put a strand of electric on my neighbours side to stop cattle getting on to the ditch as they would be pushed through fence at my side from higher up on the bank ( plus the hedge was being destroyed ) 2 strands of electric at his side if he has sheep?

MIKEKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831336#Comment_121831336

With the latest TAMS there is no need to have sheep to qualify. Previously you had to have 40 ewes

Newbie2023

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121832521#Comment_121832521

It's probably 6ft out from the ditch and not overly deep. Plan is to pipe it and fill with stone and use 8FT strainers. Done it before on a bit last year and seemed to work well.

gooner99

Jumping on this thread if that is ok.

Wondering what is the best long lasting option for fencing a piece of land approx 170m, no sheep, some cows around.

Three/Four strands of barbed wire only or sheep wire with one strand barbed?

Which type posts and wire (don't want to be replacing posts and wire constantly)?

Any ideas for entrance gates to lane/house?

What sort of price would I be looking at for materials for self erect Vs contractor material supply and erect. Pros/Cons of both options.

Thanks.

Good loser

For 170 metres use concrete posts and 3" high tensile wire (Motto?). At each end use straining post with strut angled against, both set in concrete, about a wheelbarrow for each of 4 holes. Strain the wire through the strainer post and strut with those steel ratchet type strainers. If wire slackens over time it can be tightened readily. leave intermediate posts into ground - without concrete. Use 3 strands wire the lowest one foot from ground.

For gate posts check with some guy that makes concrete posts etc.

visatorro

Did a small stretch with clipex post. Wasn't 170m but was happy with them and would use them again. Still use timber strainer and at corners. No cheap way of doing it anymore

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122159478#Comment_122159478

Did you do a sheep wire fence? how much where the clipex posts?

visatorro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122160751#Comment_122160751

No 2 strand of electric. The were 5 ft post. Just like how they went in and the were solid enough. Posts were put on account tbh so don't know price but I will use them again.

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122159478#Comment_122159478

Don't know if you have sheep or not but I find the sheep loosen the Clipex post rubbing against them.

What are others opinions on this ?

visatorro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122162841#Comment_122162841

No sheep

50HX

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122159478#Comment_122159478

Same here I'm happy with the clipex

V the price of timber ones now I think they are a great alternative + the longevity

Aravo

For a small stretch like that I think I'd go with sheep wire and 1 or 2 strands of barb on top. Would be using pdm stakes. If I could get a few old telephone posts as strainers Id go with that. Do see them advertised on done deal. For a nice gate how about depending where you are a nice gate from bo steel or fishpondiron.ie manor gate style.

onrail

Resurrecting a thread here but interested in how everyone here got on with fencing and TAMS? I've a couple of sites to fence off (securly!) for myself and a sibling and wondering whether it's worth the hassle going through TAMS. It's a little over 500m total. We only keep cows and cattle, so no sure if sheep wire or equestrian options can be claimed.

Should we go with a single strand of wire, is there good long term value in having it professionally done?

dmakc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123221551#Comment_123221551

I think the rate is around €2.77/m, so you'd want to up the metres to hit the €2,000 threshold to qualify. Or add another investment but don't use it

The fencing rate seems good. I did 3km of double strand fencing myself and I came well short of the reference cost. Probably worth getting the professional in that sense

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123221551#Comment_123221551

When fencing off a site, it’s not the livestock I’d be prioritising. We put up sheep wire here to ensure the smalls wouldn’t wander

onrail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123223005#Comment_123223005

Thats a very valid point. Stupid question - could I apply for sheep fencing if I don't keep any sheep? They were all sent up the ramp 10 years ago and I never want to see the wooly whoors again.

Tileman

no u have to have around 40 sheep in the last census to claim for sheep fencing.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123223769#Comment_123223769

Which in my opinion is stupid I have a lot of land alone the road and I am currently putting up sheep wire fencing a lot my road hedges as they are main roads and are very dangerous. Have done some myself and contractor done some also. Have some to do this year as I got the hedges done over the winter to get them done will probable get a contractor as it is on a steep enough hill. 2 row of barb and 1 sheep all HT wire. I think the boundry fence of a farm should be allowed more that electric in tams but that s just me

MIKEKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123223769#Comment_123223769

TThat rule was abolished in the last tams. No sheep needed now in census

Tileman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123224602#Comment_123224602

oh I wasn’t aware of that. Sorry.

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123224667#Comment_123224667

Good to know, wasn’t aware either. Have to tidy road boundaries, how long does it take to get Tams approval, are the approved materials much dearer?

Dinzee Conlee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123224798#Comment_123224798

Have a look here, give you some idea of prices…

https://www.mcnamarafencing.ie/formula7rounds/

Whatever about the posts, I was surprised how dear the strainers were.

Not 100%, but I think spec for TAMS is post must be 5ft minimum, and 4inch thick
Strainers must be 7foot and 6inch

Tileman

well I did it last about 5 years ago it was about 6 months before I got approval. Ans prob about 9 months until I was paid. Could be different now but that was my experience. Back then the rate was about €5.60 a meter. What are the rates these days ?

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123224602#Comment_123224602

Are you sure about that so anyone can apply for sheep wire fences? I have a flock number just never had any sheep. Also if i applied for the grant my contractor still gets creosote posts can these still be used for tams?

Dinzee Conlee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123225859#Comment_123225859

The posts have to be certified - so it’s a question for your contractor if they are or not.
I think the reference cost for sheep wire is 6.75, so you’d want to be sure they are right before you spend all the money and get nothing back…

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123225965#Comment_123225965

Yeah I know I'm just going by what we done last year with no grant. I would prefer to go with the creosote as they should last longer I would imagine.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123224873#Comment_123224873

Yes TAMS intermediate timber posts must be 5' long by 4" diameter. Strainers 7' by 7" round

PoorFarmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229745#Comment_123229745

Unless you're going with 2 rows of wire on top of the sheep wire, you will need 6' posts if this is the case

RobinBanks

Hi All,

Neighbor of mine doing allot of fencing at the moment and he is fencing the ditch on a strip between me and him. I want to give him some money towards it and when i asked him how much he said, ah its up to yourself. I havent a clue what he has spent on materials and dont want to insult him by giving him a small amount of money. I am actually delighted he is doing it because i dont have the time to do it. So i am happy to pay.

He is putting up 5ft round treated stakes, 3ft high tensile sheep wire and one line of high tensile barb wire on top. Would anyone have a rough idea of cost per meter for materials and labour to erect it?