Hiding them will prevent people slamming on the brakes when they see a camera.
If you’re not speeding then you’ve nothing to fear.
The visible deterrent argument is nonsense, that just sounds like “I can speed on roads where there’s no camera”.
How? If they’re disguised as wheelie bins or council vans and constantly moved around no one will know.
Hiding them won't prevent apps live Waze from alerting from them.
em no it doesn't, it's explaining to you how speed cameras work and why people are braking and why the location of the camera. The RSA have said this on numerous occassions also, does that mean they're against hidden cameras?
the whole idea of the camera is to slow people down in accident blackspots, if people are applying their brakes then it's working.
This post above implies you are against hidden cameras.
can you please quote where I said that statement?, as it wasn't me, I never said that.
I've no issue with speed cameras, considering i'm driving 26 years and have never had a fine or penalty point for speeding.
My issue was your exaggerations
Yes that 80 kmph to 60kmph is ignored by many.
Needs cameras for queue jumpers that cause stationary waves on the M50. All lanes on the bridge should have solid white lines, as lots fail to match speed before trying to merge.
Needs cameras for the N4 bus lane east bound.
yes the cameras would pay for themselves very quickly, or just leave them running for a month and you'd easily get repeat offenders to the point where they'd have to be on their best behaviour if they don't want to be disqualified.
I never said I was against enforcement, I just called you out on your exaggerated statements. If you want to bring up a point and try get something done there is no point in lying or exaggerating about it, it doesn't help your cause. If i'm being honest, I see a lot more problems on roads causing crashes than speeding does.
You clearly do have an issue with hidden cameras and stricter enforcement.
You said most drivers speed then you go on to say how you don’t want hidden cameras.
I have no issue, I just called you out on your exaggeration.
You keep making very persuasive arguments for more speed enforcement if you think everyone speeds.
The point at which the M50 merges with the N4 needs hidden speed cameras and traffic enforcement cameras too.
The speed limit there is broken by a lot of motorists and it’s often difficult to get from the M50 to the leftmost lane of the N4 with speeding drivers illegally undertaking.
and as I said, you're a liar or just fooling yourself as you can't use cruise control on every single road due to the nature of the roads. You definitely speed or break a different rtl everyday.
They brake first and then check their speed. Over braking.
Speed Camera at Liffey Valley coming off the M50 is parked in an 80kmph zone. People try to drop to below 60kmph because that's what the speed limit is just before. The road is wide so if your are coming off from Northbound the angle means it probably can't cover the rightmost lane.
So what’s your issue then?
Technically you could as it could be seen as thwarting the operation of the camera, however it would be very difficult to prosecute.
I think you might be exaggerating a bit there now to be honest, dealing with it everyday on the roads i'd say most people drop around 20kmph not 70kmph
I always put my cc on at 5 km/h below the applicable limit. So no, I never speed.
Has anyone ever been charged, with flashing a warning to oncoming car drivers?
Of course I do, everyone does and anyone who says otherwise is a liar or just trying to fool themselves, nobody is a perfect driver and everyone in their car breaks some different road traffic law everyday.
So you’re ok with a car suddenly going from 120 km/h to 50 km/h on front of you? ok.
And if you're keeping the required distance from the car in front of you you should have no problems with them suddenly applying their brakes.
Then you have people flashing and warning other drivers, who then speed up after the camera.
Do you speed? If not, you’ve nothing to worry about. 😇
Not when people do it suddenly.
40m for a go safe van IIRC. Over a kilometre for a handheld laser gun if it's a Garda check.
This baffles me. If the fine is for breaking the speed limit, why are cases thrown out? If it’s due to some technicality eg, the case earlier this week where there was a problem with the actual camera, that’s fair enough. Other than that, there’s no excuse. We should have more cameras if they help to prevent accidents.
I remember years ago they had the fixed cameras in the grey boxes along most national roads, you never knew which were active so had to slow down for all of them. I personally think the average speed cameras should be installed the full length of all suitable roads, they definitely work the best at keeping people to the limit, myself included
Judges throw out a huge number of speeding cases, as they see it as shooting fish in a barrel. If you start hiding them, the number being thrown out will rise dramatically.
Why it is not already the case astounds me.
I'd say yes, set up loads randomly around the place with no signage, no prevalent campaign. In the next 3 months watch the fear creep in and the speed creep down as the penalty points and fines roll out, Culturally it is all we understand, strong, unapologetic enforcement.
