Hiding them will prevent people slamming on the brakes when they see a camera.
If you’re not speeding then you’ve nothing to fear.
The visible deterrent argument is nonsense, that just sounds like “I can speed on roads where there’s no camera”.
By the time you see them they have your speed recorded.
completely wrong but ok
Speed camera vans have a pitiful range.
Who mentioned vans? Speed cameras are not just in vans.
The average speed cameras are the biggest deterrent for me.
Read my op.
One of the arguments is to also stop clowns slamming on the brakes.
It’ll also stop drivers warning others of speed traps.
Read your thread title.
What’s your point?
I'll leave you to it. Welcome back.
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I'd say yes, set up loads randomly around the place with no signage, no prevalent campaign. In the next 3 months watch the fear creep in and the speed creep down as the penalty points and fines roll out, Culturally it is all we understand, strong, unapologetic enforcement.
Why it is not already the case astounds me.
Judges throw out a huge number of speeding cases, as they see it as shooting fish in a barrel. If you start hiding them, the number being thrown out will rise dramatically.
I remember years ago they had the fixed cameras in the grey boxes along most national roads, you never knew which were active so had to slow down for all of them. I personally think the average speed cameras should be installed the full length of all suitable roads, they definitely work the best at keeping people to the limit, myself included
This baffles me. If the fine is for breaking the speed limit, why are cases thrown out? If it’s due to some technicality eg, the case earlier this week where there was a problem with the actual camera, that’s fair enough. Other than that, there’s no excuse. We should have more cameras if they help to prevent accidents.
40m for a go safe van IIRC. Over a kilometre for a handheld laser gun if it's a Garda check.
the whole idea of the camera is to slow people down in accident blackspots, if people are applying their brakes then it's working.
Not when people do it suddenly.
Then you have people flashing and warning other drivers, who then speed up after the camera.
Do you speed? If not, you’ve nothing to worry about. 😇
And if you're keeping the required distance from the car in front of you you should have no problems with them suddenly applying their brakes.
So you’re ok with a car suddenly going from 120 km/h to 50 km/h on front of you? ok.
Of course I do, everyone does and anyone who says otherwise is a liar or just trying to fool themselves, nobody is a perfect driver and everyone in their car breaks some different road traffic law everyday.
Has anyone ever been charged, with flashing a warning to oncoming car drivers?
I always put my cc on at 5 km/h below the applicable limit. So no, I never speed.
I think you might be exaggerating a bit there now to be honest, dealing with it everyday on the roads i'd say most people drop around 20kmph not 70kmph
Technically you could as it could be seen as thwarting the operation of the camera, however it would be very difficult to prosecute.
So what’s your issue then?
They brake first and then check their speed. Over braking.
Speed Camera at Liffey Valley coming off the M50 is parked in an 80kmph zone. People try to drop to below 60kmph because that's what the speed limit is just before. The road is wide so if your are coming off from Northbound the angle means it probably can't cover the rightmost lane.
and as I said, you're a liar or just fooling yourself as you can't use cruise control on every single road due to the nature of the roads. You definitely speed or break a different rtl everyday.
The point at which the M50 merges with the N4 needs hidden speed cameras and traffic enforcement cameras too.
The speed limit there is broken by a lot of motorists and it’s often difficult to get from the M50 to the leftmost lane of the N4 with speeding drivers illegally undertaking.
You keep making very persuasive arguments for more speed enforcement if you think everyone speeds.
