Thanks for that but maybe your prices might be a bit off the mark as these are underage cattle and your figures probably 3 to 4 weeks old
€7 is freely available this week even for lads with only 2 or 3 to kill. If you’ve a decent number of them and at your age for weight they’re obviously good stock, I’d say you have the bargaining power to look for €7.20+.
No problem. It's hard to keep up with the increases. How much further can they go to is the big issue. And will it burst.... hopefully it stays this way until June when I'm selling!
That's what I was sort of thinking I did not price yet but was thinking at least 7.20 if I gave them a load but in this market you just don't know what the real paid prices are
Would imagine it isn't going to go bust. With bird flu if there is much wiped out then you think prices would climb another bit.
Can't see it going back below €6+ for a good while. The stock just isn't there.
The thing I don't understand though is that the supply is there. The kill for week ending 17 Feb 25 was 39,155. Up on the figure of 37,585 last year.
Good point, theres such demand though that they are killing store cattle the last month. That possibly points to factories packing the cold stores in anticipation of further price rises to come?
Supply has never been an issue it's the UK that are very short of cattle and their dead price is over 1 euro per kg above us so the Irish factories can sell large amounts of beef to the UK and make big profits
Lots of light cattle being processed every week so take no notice of numbers being published it's the tonnes of beef is what counts and the tonnes are low enough
Exactly. So, as long as the kill stays at these levels, the more likely the price will stay high and stay increasing.
carcass weights are lower than 5 years ag by a significant amount and demand has increased
how many more people in the country/europe compared to 10 years ago
I see the factories are still taking the oiss. The price gap between us and the uk has widened in the last few weeks.
Passing by Carnaross mart today, there was 3 Northern Ireland reg lorrys loading up store cattle bought on Monday. If you think about it a least 1/3 of the cattle sold there on Monday are going North for higher prices.
A flat price of €7 is to be got for bulls and continental bullocks.
Heard last night the 7 month grass men are buying calves this year as stores are just too dear. It doesn't make sense to me as need 10 of them to make a store unit and they now 250 head for anything non FR... that's 2500 so better off buying the ridiculous stores..... it just doesn't make sense.... and where is it going to end 🤔
Why 10? 1-2 year old is 57kgs/N.
A calf is 24kgs/N.
Adult cattle are 65kgs/N
Correct me if I am wrong but would that not mean 3 calves would cover a store?
Edited to say just searched it online there. A bovine under 1 yr is 0.4 Lu.
Over 1 but under 2 is 0.7
Over 2 is 1.0
2.5 calves cover any other beast in terms of LU.
Did you hold out in the end hoping for the €7?
@grange mac couldn't see any of the 7 month lads I know rearing calves to much work in that for them. But maybe they could be buying reared calves (2-3 months). And in fairness there could be as much to be made out of them as anything.
Yeah have some going this week. Waiting for €8 for the rest of them!!!
I can't see to many of the 7 months men buying suck calves tbh but maybe I'm wrong. Often being a 7 months farmer is due to work or other commitments that limit the amount of time you've available to spend farming or to make for an easier life. If I wanted an easy life then it wouldn't involve suck calves or mixing milk replacer and I'd imagine most others would agree.
Secondly if you've an area of land to stock then suck calves aren't going to make much use of grass for the first half of the year. Unless you've other stock or intend to make winter fodder then you'll have very little grazing demand in the peak growing season and an increasing demand as growth tails off in the autumn. If you were rearing sucks every year and keeping them through to stores/finish then you'd have bigger cattle to stock the land with but now you're keeping cattle all year round.
Lastly with the sucks you've a TB risk in the autumn compared to buying stores and carrying through to finish. Granted if you were buying weanlings in the spring previously and showing again in the store ring in the autumn then you ran the risk of being locked with Tb come sale time every year.
7 month operator would be better off forfeiting the ANC payment rather than buying cattle to qualify for the payment.
I think you can miss one years payments iirc
Stock whatever level you want then & when you want
is the sticking level not 0.1lu/ha for both biss and anc?
It’s basically zero. If you can’t meet that then time to give up. 100 acre farm would need 8 x 2 yr old bullocks for the 7 months.
Anybody know what stock bulls are making at the minute?
a little over €5 a kg afaik
extra 10c for lim stock bulls in roscrea if you have a pedigree cert
What would a 900kg limo bull kill out at,would he be 480ish??
If he’s a well finished u grad bull he’d kill out at 60%.
Thanks didnt think the kill out would be that high
It would depend on his level of finish. If he was a young bull well finished then 60%, a stockbull a bit bare would be back around 55%
Do you buy your cattle without seeing them before the mart in person..?
Haven't seen cattle before they were bought for 2 yrs.
They are usually paid for a few hours before I see them
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