The existing station isn’t remaining thankfully.
There may be numerous Docklands around the country, but is there any other Docklands train station?
The new Waterford will retain the Plunkett name.
Irish Rail's website lists the stations names as Dublin Heuston, Dublin Connolly and Dublin Pearse. Those names are also used on Intercity services. I'm not sure why they don't use Dublin in the station plaques (like they do for the other named stations in the country), but I don't think that makes their names official. In Kent Station, signs swap between Cork Kent, Cork Kent Station and just Kent Station (the Irish name also swaps between Ceannt and Kent).
That reasoning is fair enough for Tara Street, actually (it not being a terminus). But Docklands is a terminus, and there are multiple Docklands around the country so I always found it a bit weird they didn't make the name Dublin Docklands.
On an unrelated note, I wonder if the new station in Waterford will be named Plunkett as well, or will it get a new name (I'm unsure if the existing station is remaining too)
The answer is that it isn’t, if you visit each of those stations you will find the signs on the platforms read “Heuston Station”, “Connolly Station” and “Pearse Station” respectively.
Now that hasn’t stopped Irish Rail using the “Dublin ….” form in announcements and timetables, but it’s never been used on the platform signs or the sign over the door at the station entrance (although Heuston still doesn’t have one of those!)
But Tara Street isn’t a terminal station, no trains terminate there, unlike the other stations you mentioned. It’s a through station that happens to be the closest to Dublin City centre.
Because those first three were termini of major railway companies (Heuston for GSWR, Connolly for GNRI and Pearse for DSER). Tara St was an intermediate stop on the Loopline and Docklands wasn’t opened until more than a century after any of the others mentioned.
I wonder why it is Dublin Heuston, Dublin Connolly and Dublin Pearse, but then just Tara Street and Docklands (rather than Dublin Tara Street and Dublin Docklands)
You didn't consider for one second that that was a typo?
They're still stating April 2025 on their own website. But if that's been postponed for renovation work, it's hardly the "abandoned" racecourse you described it as.
There's nothing wrong with the words "my mistake", you know... I use them all the time myself.
It's a typo. The website lists 24th April 2025; and three in May listed.
Either way, it is very much not abandoned.
Quote: That’s Tipperary Racecourse. Next meeting 24. April, 2005.
That is twenty years ago!
No meetings for 2025 due to new all weather development of the course. I was there once and my bet came in last in the bumper.
That’s Tipperary Racecourse. Next meeting 24. April, 2005.
I’m not claiming to be a local - I’ve only ever passed through here on the way somewhere else, but the lack of knowledge about this area on show in the last few posts is surprising.
The racecourse is still active, and indeed doesn't even look vaguely abandoned on Google Maps?
Your posts on this thread are incredibly confused and confusing.
Limerick Junction opened in 1848 when there would have been little of any importance around there. So naming it Barronstown might have been better. There used to be a racecourse next to the station but it looks abandoned judging by Google maps..
Railway construction at the time it opened had great difficulty getting access to land near cities as the local landowners would not cooperate. Hence many stations are not well placed and routes built tended to be less than direct. Judging by the M17 and M18, times have not changed much.
My bad about Tipperary. Maybe Tipperary Central, and Tipperary West? 🤔 No, I'm not being serious. That would not be a good idea. But, I still would have picked a local townland for the name, rather than Limerick junction.
Limerick Junction is in the townland of Ballykisteen. Be honest; you;ve never heard of Ballykisteen, have you? Calling the station "Ballykisteen" would not be helpful. Whereas calling it "Limerick Junction" is quite helpful; it will dawn on even the more slow-witted travellers that Limerick Junction might be the place where you change trains if you want to go to Limerick.
Remember what the function of the station is; it's to serve passengers who want to go to Limerick. While it also serves people who want to travel to or from Ballykisteen, such people are few. Almost nobody who uses Limerick Junction station would be benefitted in any way from knowing where it is.
The nearest train stations to the Barbican are Liverpool Street and Farringdon plus St Pauls and Moorgate. Barbican Station is not the closest.
So people looking for the Barbican have plenty of choice. Many tube stations are very close together but on different lines. Some are very close on the same line. It is quite common for people on the tube to change lines to get to their preferred stop and not realising that their original line has a closer stop to their destination.
It's not just about reducing confusion, which is important. It's about facilitating people other than regular users. Lots of people make occasional trips to the Barbican. It just makes sense to have the nearby station named after it.
I only just learned that you can't travel to/from Manulla jct (as in enter or leave the station there). I wonder was that always the case? If so, then that should have been called Ballina Junction maybe, as the relevance of the location is moot. I agree with your point on Howth jct as well. That's why I said "if it were opened now".
By the way, I still don't agree about "MUSEUM" on the Luas. Whether it's the largest or most important national museum site isn't the point (was also news to me, as I'd have assumed Kildare St was the main one). Or even that it's the only museum on the Luas is not relevant either. The Luas is only one component of the city's transport system.
On the London Underground, Aldersgate was renamed Barbican to reduce confusion with Aldgate, but also because of the opening of the Barbican Centre.
So names can change if there is reason and pressure to reduce confusion.
Yes it would be “Donaghmede” if opened now, but in fairness, when Howth Junction was built, "Donaghmede" simply didn’t exist. All of the housing near to this station dates from the 1950s and ’60s. Here’s what the area still looked like long after the Howth branch opened (the station is in the centre of this map):
“Limerick Junction” wasn’t called “Tipperary” because Tipperary town had, and still has, its own station (info here: Tipperary Station).
But, they aren't the only junctions on the network. Others are just called after the places they are in, like Portartlington. Limerick junction should have been called Tipperary imo. Interestingly, Howth junction is now called Howth Junction/Donaghmede. If it were opened for the first time today, they would have just called it Donaghmede, I'd say.
Agreed, I don’t see what is hard to grasp. There are many things you could name a station after. As for railway junctions, surely it’s obvious that Limerick Junction is because the Cork line splits for Cork and Limerick at that point? Manulla Junction is named after the nearby village of that name. And so on.
No Sam, frankly you’re just posting nonsense.
I am taking licence in that names appear random.
Some are named after individuals, some after nearby places or streets (or maybe not), and some after nearby functions - like Hospital because it is near a hospital - while another one actually running through a hospital is named after James (whoever he was) while the hospital is actually named after Saint James the apostle.
Some of the names are a mystery where the original name is lost in the fog of long forgotten history. I am thinking of Limerick Junction which is not in Limerick City or County Limerick but in County Tipp. Why call it that? Are other stations called 'somewhere junction' because it is a change point for passengers heading for 'somewhere'. Moyasta Junction was a junction on the West Clare Railway which separated into Kilkee and Kilrush. It could have been named after either destination but was not.
A bit of mild absurdity in the process needs little exaggeration to make a point.
Arbour Hill prison was (when a military facility) and is now (as a State prison) on the northern side of Arbour Hill Sam. At least accept you’re wrong on that. It is not beside the LUAS stop.
The barracks have housed the museum for almost 30 years (since 1997), which I think is what most people would associate with it.
It should be "Tallaght Hospital", but St James's is a parish in Dublin and not just the name of the hospital, so that should stay as is. (The lands now occupied by the Guinness brewery were named for being on the edge of this parish).
"Museum" is not a problem. This is the largest of the three sites within Dublin, and the only one reachable by Luas - it's unlikely to cause much confusion (signage at the gate, which is right at the luas stop, directs people to the other two collections). If Kildare St or Merrion St get a tramline, then it could be renamed, but it's fine for now.
Arbour Hill was originally an army prison and part of Collins Barracks, formally Royal Barracks.
There are more museums than that one and it is difficult to see why it has that particular name.
Yeah, good examples. Regular users won't even see it as an issue but what was wrong with "James Hospital", "Tallaght Hospital"? Murphy's law would dictate that someone has probably hopped on the Red line for James' Hospital, but ended up in Tallaght by mistake. Museum is also ambiguous. Why not even Museum (Collins)? Is space really in such short supply on the signage?
I’m not sure what prison you’re thinking of?
Museum is right beside the entrance to Collins Barracks which is now part of the National Musuem.
The nearest prison is on the north side of Arbour Hill which is an 8 minute walk away on a completely different street?
On the Red Luas line there is HOSPITAL and JAMES, plus MUSEUM.
Handy, but James is a hospital, as is Hospital but a long distance apart.
Museum is next to the prison, but Prison is unlikely to be the name of a stop.
One way of resolving competing claims to station names would be to name (some at least) after nearby landmarks, that people might want to visit. Eg I think I suggested before that "Botanic Gardens" would be a much better name for the planned "Griffith Park" station on Metrolink. The overriding consideration should be utility and information value. Agree with the OP about Connolly and Heuston as well. You have to put yourself in the shoes of the people who use the services, and who actually need the information like tourists and visitors, not so much commuters who are using them every day. The name of the city/town should be in all mainline station names. You can have slightly different names for the same station when it's part of a local network as well. Eg. you have "München-Ost" (East) as one of the mainline stations in Munich. The same station on the local network is just called "Ostbahnhof"
