Something something Prendergoat
Have at it.
Yes, Lowe had two bad kicks direct to touch but he created a lot more than JGP.
Was not a form pick
Baird absolutely did not take his chance today. Game totally passed him by.
Virgin analysts not covering themselves in glory with SP. Sextons buddies bigging him up. He was ok but Crowley looked class when he came on. Took Trimble to come on and say it. Conan was outstanding when he came on. Really think that analysis team is generally very unbalanced.
Conan far better player than Baird, if anything Baird might be an impact player v tiring defences in an open game, although I just don't think he's an international player.
I dunno what dope picked JGP as POTM particularly when he was fairly stinking for the first 40, but for me Lowe was our main man and his performance today has surely sealed his spot in the Lions squad. He was immense.
Anyone watch ITV? Eddie Jones and whoever was co commentator said Sam has a stinker and gave the game to England. They said all he does is run across the pitch and defences see it a mile off.
They also questioned his pace.
Crawley got a very positive analysis.
Interesting to see their views
Very encouraged by our set piece. Our lineout at one stage was 17 from 17 midway through the second half and I can't imagine we lost too many after.
Scrum was solid also. It's especially encouraging that Clarkson came on with 15-20 minutes left and kept his side of the scrum up well.
I think Crowley is better than Sam.
But I think Sam should start next week. He needs experience, games and exposure at this level. In jack we have a 6 nations winning 10 on the bench ready to come on and make a difference.
Dropping Sam is a kick he doesn’t need, also as sub he doesnt offer the versatility that Jack does.
Sam for me next week, continue the evolution.
I thought we went to the backs way too early when we were camped on the 5m line in the first half. Given the possesion and territory we had from the 15th minute to half time, 5 points was a poor return. The effort in the first half maybe fatigued england and we made a number of clean breaks. It was good to see the Munster, Leinster and Connacht players celebrating tries particularly when you listen to the provincial nonsense on here.
I think Aki and Hansen will be lucky to be in the 23 mext week. A week ago, I would have been worried about Sheehan and particularly Lowe but both excelled..
A win against England with their vast advantage in playing population should always be savoured. There will be days in the future when they hammer us. Enjoy today.
I thought the referee favoured us but a deserved win
We remember fine, but it has zero impact on 2025
Well the result is a good win for us.
However giving those 2 cheap tries to England should not have been on Ireland's watch when in play.
It was poor to give England a LBP in the end. However; if Ireland's performance was anything to go by; it was a mixed bag really in terms of performance & competency. It was tough to watch in one way but great in another.
The 1st half against England really didn't show us how well we were going at the races. It had no focus, no effort and no determination to even try a win a match. It felt really deflating seeing England go ahead by 5 points at the break.
It felt by half time that Ireland didn't have any intuition in them whatsoever to win this crucial encounter against England. There was a niggling feeling out there as we approached the 2nd half that Ireland's title race in this championship was potentially going to go off the rails after going through their 1st encounter against England this year.
But as soon as the 2nd half arrived; Ireland new tactics worked wonders for it's skill & intention. Ireland won the game with some slick skill with ball in hand and some wonderful line breaks & tries to keep us ahead until the final whistle was blown.
All of the tries from Ireland were formed with some of the best creativity out there on the field of play. They were simply superb. James Lowe was the major player in bringing 3 of those tries onto the board with JGP, Beirne & Sheehan alongside him. And Bundee Aki scored that fabulous try in-between those wonderful tries by the Lowe/Beirne & Lowe/Sheehan combos.
If I was looking at Scotland at Murrayfield next Sunday; I think that will be a tough game to watch as Scotland scored 6 tries against Italy today. They won't be many attempts by Scotland to backdown their intent on the pitch against Ireland next week. Ireland just need to be focused & to be clinical while they are looking at Scotland's game plan over the next eight days.
I feel that it will be a tough & tight game for us.
But it could be some showdown for us to see them go up against each other next weekend. I can't wait for it.
I'd say more Ward v Campbell. As they are around the one age.
ROG was 32 in 2009 when the Sexton challenge came.
Though I'd agree with the provincial rivalry. I don't think that was as pronounced in the late 70s.
Conan massively underrated?
I feel if the prendergast highlights were shown for Crowley the panel would be highlighting the negatives. If Jack had started the game the question would be asked is there an argument for Sam to start. Matt Williams suggested Jack's future lies at 12 if he keeps putting in solid performances.
It's Sexton/O'Gara again kinda. 😄
Great choice to have and both are still learning.
Conan replacing Baird was a huge moment , along with Sheehan coming in. Within minutes Aki scored when we were attacking off quick ruck ball.
Matt Williams absolutely off his chops there
Or fans who don't remember 1986 to 2003, when wins were as rare as hens' teeth. Or pre that era.
Any day you beat England is good day
Or is it Willem Defoe managing Ireland??
Thought Kellleher was poor in open play, and Baird was poor. Conan and Sheehan made a huge differene when they came on and it led to the Aki try
I feel bad for Kelleher because he was excellent tonight and flawless from touch, but Sheehan is just next level.
Is the squad gaining anything by Cian Healy getting minutes. Surely there is a younger player that should be gaining experience. C
I LOVE the misery here by some of the seagulls.
Just beating England with a bonus point, and their misery never lifts.
Not real fans.
So much of our win comes down to experience.
How many caps had we on the pitch and bench..
I thought we might have gone over the hill, but maybe not.
Who does???
Don't apologise for that.
I completely agree, as I said earlier. The Prendergast Crowley debate is perfectly reasonable to discuss, as long as its done with evidence, proportion and respect to all parties.
SP was monstered a bit early on by the England aggression, but he's a very inexperienced Test player and will learn massively from today. Crowley came on and looked the part completely, so the coach will have food for thought, thankfully!
But yes, neither 10 won or lost it, credit must go to the pack and the coaches who came up with an approach to negate the England breakdown of the first half, and thats hugely impressive.
We can go to Edinburgh with quiet confidence.
sure, give all the credit to the blue eyed boys.
Happy with the 5 points, but not happy with the finish. Much improved second half until the last 5 mins.
Lowe was outstanding. My motm, although I won't crib over JGP getting it. Hansen could be looking over his shoulder at Nash.
Prendergast looked nervous and played that way at times. Some good, some bad. He has the talent and he's going to be a great 10, but I don't know if he's being pushed too far too soon.
Anyways, roll on the Scots next week.
