How does having the own door property benefit those who use the service?
Why reinvent the wheel?
Because buying apartments and then turning them into a respite centre is a change of use and would need planning permission, which would likely be impossible under the T&C of buying the apartments.
I get the thinking of it....keep it all contained, easier to manage and clean and I think they wanted an office space too.
I just think it's weird that last week there was carnage over the two steps from the kitchen and how it wasn't future proof or wheelchair accessible....how many of us consider a wheelchair when renovating unless there's a family member using one.
However this respite accomodation has no wheelchair accessibility, even anyone with mobility issues will find those front steps a challenge.
Again to me it's a 3 storey house with steps to front door is a very odd choice when catering to people with lung issues.
Change of use for planning would apply just as much to the house as to apartments.
There could be an issue with management company approval for apartments, that's a fair point.
Ah here. You’d send sick people to stay in Clondalkin if you had the option to put them up in Rathgar?
Do you reckon that south Dublin snobbery will be high on their list of priorities?
3 Million would have bought or built a small hotel somewhere else on a good bus route that would have housed more people.
Most people would prefer Rathgar, that’s why it costs more to stay there
I would say the underfloor heating is for practical reasons, radiators attract a huge amount of dust, which is bad for people with Cystic Fibrosis is my understanding.
watching now. Crap episode even less of the actual build than normal.
Where on a good bus route in Dublin would you have bought a small hotel for 3 million. Could you give us an example please?
You mean Stevensez hospital ?😁
So I thought that the finished design was beautiful but not very practical.
Cream coloured sofas no? I wouldn't have them in my own house never mind one that will have a high turnover rate.
I can actually see the sense of having a lovely house/ apt for people to stay in rather than soulless apartments in middle of nowhere.
However I do think they messed up with the parking.
Yes I get house on good transport links so don't need to necessarily drive from house to hospital but as programme shows families coming from all over Ireland and will need to park cars somewhere! Now maybe their is a solution but didn't show us.
Also eventually all children will be in new hospital so really near there should have been the priority.
Watching on RTE player (so can't rewind for my own sanity).
Missed the detail on the budget. It was bought for €1.25m and the original budget was €250k? Did it then go over budget before any work was started?
The QS said it would be x amount per square metre or whatever, worked out around 1.5 million they needed to find......gone are the days a 100/200 grand is pulled out of the arse.
This building is for the use of family parents to stay in while the son or daughter is in hospital for that budget they could simply have bought 3 houses in the area for 370 k each we can assume the relatives will be in good health probably
Am I missing something I take it the people with lung issues will be in the hospital not staying I the new apartments
Cheers, I was thinking that Dermot had outdone himself by blowing the budget without spending a penny.
It's for the families.
It's very difficult to juggle a sick child when you don't live close to the hospital.
If you're from Kerry and your child has been transferred to crumlin or Temple Street where do you stay? You can't really leave them alone on their own but equally even a modest B&B is going to set you back.
I think it might also accommodate out patient appointments so an overnight stay etc for the sick child.
I think Laura Lynn have some accommodation too.
I don't think practicality was ever going to be the driving force behind it. It was a dream of his and fair play to them for making it a reality. A more practical person probably doesn't pull it off. I do think they ended up with amazing apartments which will help families.
Parking is always a bit of a pain in areas like that but I wouldn't mind a bit of a walk from finding a free spot. It's part and parcel of living in those areas.
The cost at the end was a bit vague. Did the work actually cost €2 million, or was that the value of the free work and free materials?
One practical thing is that they now have a serious asset for the charity. If it ever made more sense, and that was the approach they wanted, they won't lose much value on it. (If a chunk of the €2 million "cost" was indeed donated then they've almost certainly created money for the charity).
There’s a Ronald McDonald house near Crumlin for the same purpose.
They are much needed for families of sick children.
And a huge RMcD house is being built beside the new children's hospital at St James's hospital.
As far as I know (open to correction though) the CF centre of operations is in St Vincent's hospital, which is why I thought at first the house was in Donnybrook/Ballsbridge - I was kind of surprised when I read it was in Rathmines
no way you’d buy a house in the area for €370 - double that at least
yes Vincent’s for the southside and Beaumont for the Northside.
Ronald McDonald house is only available for those whose child is in Crumlin on a non-short term basis. That’s the way it was 13 years ago when my DD was in anyway. There is also a charge per night. Met a woman from Kerry who had been sleeping on the floor of her very unwell child’s (tiny) room in Crumlin for a number of weeks, said she couldn’t afford the RMcD charge - awful for her. We live close by so could get up and down easy.
Deffo see the parking as an issue there and of course it wasn’t mentioned
I think they mean most of the materials and work carried out were free if you paid for this it would cost 2milion euros and he did raise money from donations
That was a serious effort by all involved.
They made a big deal about having dual bathrooms to avoid cross contamination, so it appears that the people with CF will be staying in the apartments at some stage, perhaps when accessing day services at the hospitals.
Still the same these days, I think. I have a friend with a daughter in Crumlin and it's hard to get in even when it's long term. Charities do offer vouchers for alternative accommodation but even with that generosity, it's still very expensive.
The price of the house isn't really the issue for me, we all know property prices are mental.
However after having a child that was in and out of hospital (thankfully I live in Dublin with good public transport connections so we could do 1 night in the chair 1 night at home between the pair of us) I have a fair idea of what my priorities would be.
Period house with sash windows, cornices and fancy ceiling roses absolutely not.....so I don't see the value of paying over the odds for a 20 year vacant property.......I was half expecting Hugh Wallace to make a grand entrance at one stage (we would have had a hat trick then: room to improve meets diy sos meets great house revival)
I'm not allergic to stairs but having to drag a buggy up a flight of stairs before even getting in the hall door....no!
A nice easy access front door with maybe a "parking" area for a pram so you don't need to bring it into the apartments especially if you have to go upstairs to the apartment.
Easy to clean functional furniture....there's no need for 500 scatter cushions. The big fabric headboards are also a no from me. I'm not looking for a hotel experience.
Location: I'm not overly familiar with the Southside being a Northsider , so I can't really comment on bus /luas/ dart routes to hospitals, but I would expect the property to have easy access to public transport we all know the cost of hospital parking if you get a spot and there's very little parking around crumlin and Temple Street without a walk....however if I was staying in one of these properties I'd want to me close enough to a decent supermarket to pick up basics....even just for the mental break of a walk to the shops etc.
Then of course parking, you don't want to be stressing about where you are parking your car....if you are coming back late at night you don't want to have to park miles away.
I'm really surprised there was not even a blue badge parking spot.....but then this property is completely unsuitable for anyone in need of a blue badge.
Seeing a waste of funding just absolutely annoys me …yes I know he raised it.... however more families could have been helped if the spending was different.
3 or 4 apartments might have been a better investment he had another 250 after he bought the house. but it’s TV and I think it’s naive to think all is as it seems when it come to these things. My wife commented that it seems like more a project for Baz to be involved in. either way as I said earlier it was a poor episode with far too little of the actual interesting bit of building and far too much of the stuff around the build. the show is getting worse each season I think. Nice house but as a show it’s getting worse
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