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The Drones of 2024/25

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This mystery has carried on for almost a month with zero explanation - thus no action or resolution taken so far, to prevent them.

Background of the US East Coast drones:
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-12-16/what-we-know-about-the-mysterious-drones-flying-over-the-united-states

Shortly afterwards, the UK and Germany (with security elevation):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cq8q5q53ypjt

Couple of days ago, were reports in Denmark also:
https://apnews.com/article/denmark-drones-port-police-investigation-18e41a09ff8ce2638c79846ad64cf92e

The wildest claim so far just days ago, is from the Telsa-Vegas lad, suggesting Chinese subs in Atlantic were sending them out, using 'gravitic propulsion systems' (manipulates gravitational fields to generate movement, anti-gravity):
https://www.newsweek.com/matthew-livelsberger-had-theory-about-mystery-drones-alleged-manifesto-2009560

Is it just an over use of hobbyist consumer drones?
If so, can anyone recommend the best drone stock or shares to buy in 2025, and cash in on it all.

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silliussoddius

It has fizzled out as morons are recording weather instead of planes. And what would someone with severe mental health issues know of China’s submarine activity?

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Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058386654/the-drones-of-2024-25

Due to the escalating human crisis on earth, these UAP are appearing now. Since it hasn't exploded enough to be mainstream, this part is not going to be believable to many. In response to non-human UAPs appearing, the controller group sends a UAP in to muddy the waters. The question will arise: "Why would they do that?" This part will become more knowledgeable over the next year, regardless of how wild it seems now. We live on a prison planet, and it has been this way for thousands of years.

As a result of a massive war between different groups in space, this colony was left over from one of those conflicts. Non-human group have managed the planet in conjunction with people on earth who control everything. War and power greed maintain the control mechanism.

Also, they maintain the narrative of UAP as nonsense and make-believe to maintain the functioning of the control system. The entire control system does not function once we realize that we are not alone. The planet is a prison planet, and we are not supposed to know too much about its history.

As a result of this change over the past year, this group of nonhumans has decided to intervene and put an end to this prison planet, bringing us back into the fold away from the other group on earth. It sounds like science fiction. The process will take place over the course of this year. It's not years away. The group that is coming in does not want to scare the population at once. It is not an invasion. The first thing they want us to realize is that this planet is being held hostage. Next, we need to decide whether we prefer how things are or whether we want to join them. This is how they introduce themselves.

I will not say much more until more people are exposed to this. At the moment, it sounds crazy. The event will take place over the next six months. Starting in January and continuing through the summer. The controllers on earth are obviously not happy with this issue and will play deceptive games to maintain their position similar to what they did in New Jersey. There will be more and larger UFOs visible over the next year.

Another thing I'm not sure about is whether the trump tower car bomb was a deception effort to hide what was going to happen by blaming it on a foreign actor. However, there will be deceptions in order to control the narrative of the control system.

silliussoddius

For the last seven years we have been told "any day now', so now we have something definite before June 30th. What happens when this doesn't pan out? Is there already an pre-existing excuse? How can the controllers on earth be more powerful than this inter galactic civilization, and why couldn't these controllers give the man (who was obviously one of may thousands of military veterans suffering from ptsd or the like) who blew up the Homer Simpson car something more powerful than fireworks?

Is it the Anukai that is coming?

These Are Facts

The drones/uaps could well be non-human, indications are they're highly evasive, and defying the laws of known physics.

Ancient literature does indeed point towards the Anunnaki, and suggests they'll return. The other 'Anukai?' mentioned just above, are a logistics company from India.

More sightings today at bases in Tennessee, Scotland and again at RAF Mildenhall & Lakenheath (within the last 24hrs). The latest trend is of orange glowing orbs in various locations, including the epicentre: New Jersey.

The easiest thing to do would be to take them all down using (existing) directed energy weaponary and so on, show the press the aftermath e.g. branding, flags or serial numbers, track and call out the perps. Much like the China baloons incident last year.

Instead, weeks on, it goes on without remedy, so the longer speculation will grow.

Other theories could be 'project blue book' (false invasion) as a control mechanism. Or self-aware SuperAGI reactive-evasive machines, from an unknown source.

Assuming it's not groups of youths with new DJI's as Christmas gifts, the behaviour points to either surveillance and preperation for a friendly contact, or… for war.

JJayoo

Did these drones ever show up when it was pissing rain? Or was it usually on nice dry nights/considering a regular drone would fly in

LambshankRedemption

I watch a lot of CNN and when Luigi shot the CEO of United Health, I remember an Analyst on with Anderson Cooper mentioning that the NYPD had launched their drones as part of the search for him.

I had a brief, "Wait, wut?" moment.

It seems everyone and his or her Mum has a drone at this stage. Amazon have them, now the NYPD, the Navy have them. There are retail deliveries happening via drone in Dublin now. Actually, if you watch the latest Ghostbusters movie, even they had them.

Lights in the sky was interesting back when there was not much else up there. Today, there is all manner of things flying around there.

con747

Drones have been used by emergency services around the world for years.

mikehammer..

Military will be doing something to counter the terrorist threat with drones anyhow

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123028208#Comment_123028208

Yet all we were given as proof were videos of planes.
If it was project blue beam, the alien invasion is going to be pretty under whelming.

lumphammer2

Elon Musk …. everything weird and spacey in the world has in some way to do with him …..

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123028208#Comment_123028208

Well we know Anukai exists.

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The suggestion that all of these globally, are just airplanes is extremely lazy.

Indeed consumer and commercial drones are becoming more common, but have a very limited ceiling height, capabilities and hardware set OEM light patterns.

These UAPs have been presenting some curious aspects:

Mimicry, Imitating (poorly) aircraft appearance in light, and sound, however either erratic or unusual static blue or orange lights were also observed, deviating from standard aviation lighting, may indicate predatory behaviour.
Silent, and 'off-shore' return to base patterns
Often hovering silently before accelerating at unnatural speeds, suggesting the use of advanced technology or non-physicality. Many also returned to an 'at sea' positions off the NJ coast, and at UK, Denmark.
Morphing Shape
In size, shape, quantity and dynamic group behaviour
Lack of Radio Identification Signals
as required by FAA/CAA/EASA etc ID Rules
No Radar Detection
Suggests stealth conditions
Sudden Disappearance
The ability to suddenly 'go dark'
Zero Heat Signature, or viewable only via infrared optics
The Jellyfish one in the Middle East was only visable with the US's I-red camera optics.
Size, Duration & Formation
Denmark had over 20 large ones, their cops viewed 4 on arrival at the harbour
Proximity to Sensitive Areas
Most US/UK sites now have recent site risks escalated
Trans-Medium Travel
Non function loss, when travelling between air, water and space
Anti-drone Weaponry Resistance
With no frequency signatures, the reason none have been taken down, and recorded on ground by the press.
Environmental Resistance
One of the now-famous US Navy observed craft, as the pilot described, flew against 120 knot headwinds, and changed positioning instantly, G-forces that would turn pilots to mush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_M0hLlJ-Q

So more questions than answers remain...

silliussoddius

But no evidence has been presented for any of this, just people either genuinely not knowing they saw a plane or looking for attention, then for some reason an explosion in Las Vegas gets thrown in with all of this.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058386654/the-drones-of-2024-25

If you press enter after pasting your link, it makes it easy for us to just click and view.

I have a DJI Air drone that can fly over 3000feet in height and the distance is only limited by the 40 minute battery. It has an intense light built into the underside of the body that makes it look like a star at this altitude. Others more tech savvy can synchronise their drones for desired effect. In all likelihood, the footage in those links are hoaxes.

Propulsion is impossible in a vacuum such as that which they tell us is in space. Any aliens/UFOs out there are coming from within our own atmosphere, either from cohabitants we know about or ones we don't, they are not from space.

Giblet

Conservation of momentum is what allows ignition and propulsion of gases to cause thrust in space. A well understood phenomenon.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123026813#Comment_123026813

What is hidden is that what lies beyond is not peaceful. Nonhuman groups have been fighting longer than we can imagine, and this planet has long been a prison planet for prisoners of that ancient war. Our space area has been witnessing a cold war between nonhuman groups. A reason why UFOs have operated in secret before is that if they appeared in mass suddenly in the past history and there were no communications, masses would have gone into shock.

We are ancient relatives of this group appearing now and decided the time is right to intervene since we have reached a point of communication that can cause the prison system to collapse once bad things keep happening on earth and people start questioning everything.

In the near future, the cold war will come to an end. Controllers on earth are aware we live on a prison planet, but have chosen to go along with it. There are those who oppose disclosure because once the truth is revealed, everything changes.

The purpose of people in government dropping nonsense stories like Iranian mothers ship releasing drones and Chinese antigravity drones is to confuse people and make them think they've been invaded.

In order to restart the war in our area of space, we must be desperate for their assistance. Our state needs to be one that understands we've been misled about everything. A major intervention will occur in 2025 as the crisis on this planet worsens.

The mindset of people like you and others has to change before the cold war ends, and that will happen in stages over the next six months. The group showed up shooting, if you ask the masses who they think the enemy is today, they'll assume the good guys are the bad guys. The process of disclosing secrets to billions of people on earth is very complicated and certain things must happen in order to break down a long-running prison system.

Don't believe a word I say...observe instead

What is the reason for government leaders' panic over drones near sensitive sites? What is happening is not being revealed in a truthful manner. Members of Congress and senators are not receiving answers from their own military. It makes sense to you that someone can fly a drone over a sensitive site without getting shot down, that's on you.

It should now be clear why ufos haven't been disclosed for 70 years.

It has already begun in November with the first phase. The second stage will occur around January or February. You don't have long to wait

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123043292#Comment_123043292

Nope. You have to follow all three laws, neither NASA nor Aliens can' pick and choose the laws they follow. Newton's 3rd can't work on it's own without Newton's 1st law which states "An object at rest remains at rest, or if in motion, remains in motion at a constant velocity unless acted on by a net external force"

No external force, no motion I'm afraid. Better luck next time NASA, the footage from space is 100% fake (as is SpaceX's).

These Are Facts

Any advanced intergalactic races will likely write their own laws, beyond our understanding such as anti-gravity ion propulsion, wormholes and inter dimensional placement.

It wasn't that long ago that humans though the world was flat, until it was proved beyond doubt, otherwise.

2025 certainly seems to be the year of the drones, in the Ukr an old lady is busy taking down Rus Shahed-136s drones, with an old 1946 twin-mounted 50mm >. In LA there are 'no drones' road signs just went up, to prevent nosey folks near the fires. Holiday flightpaths from Birmingham will face travel disruption from US RQ-4 Global Hawks taking off nearby, multiple times per week.

Meanwhile, Trump says: ‘I’m going to give you a report on drones (UAP types) about 1 day into the administration.

ozmo

Dont think anyone in History thought world was flat. Ancient Greeks even worked out its diameter. (Eratosthenes in about 200 BC)

Every army now seems to have drones, or doing catchup when they have seen how effective they are, I dont see why it couldnt be military practice. Possibly they are even just practice targets for detection systems.

That or hobbiests trolling.

Giblet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123046141#Comment_123046141

So you don't know how rockets work, ok. Igniting fuel causes expanding, pressurised gases to expel out the back of the rocket, while doing this it pushes against the rocket and the remaining fuel (as there is additional pressure, or forces in the system), creating an equal but opposite reaction. There ya go, now you know!

Of course, you just grabbed it from Google didn't you, you quote mining cherry picker you!

Here is the actual law.

Corpus omne perseverare in statu suo quiescendi vel movendi uniformiter in directum, nisi quatenus illud a viribus impressis cogitur statum illum mutare.

Cheeky guy, writing in Latin for god sake!

In English

Every body perseveres in its state of rest, or of uniform motion in a right line, unless it is compelled to change that state by forces impressed thereon.

But because you didn't know this, you should not really comment on anything more sophisticated than a paper plane in future, as you seem to have a less-than-layman's idea of things.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123047424#Comment_123047424

The last paragraph is definitely going to happen.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123047799#Comment_123047799

You shouldn't bring a banana to a gunfight.

I have read several books on Newton and in addition to reading the entirety of Principia, I've read hundreds of letters sent to and from Newton at the time arguing different merits and shortfalls of his publication. I know exactly how the laws are worded, my translation was specifically for the benefit of those like you who misinterpret them.

You used the word in your own quote but failed to acknowledge the importance of it. "Impressis" or "impressed" means an external force or influence on a body resulting in a change of state. The source of this simply cannot be from the body itself, you cannot create your own external force. It would be tantamount to lifting yourself up by the bootstraps.

To summarise, (and keep it vaguely on topic) - No air/medium, therefore no propulsion, therefore no aliens from space, therefore the source of the drones simply has to be from within our own atmosphere.

Giblet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123048478#Comment_123048478

It isn't from the body itself though, as there is pressure created by a reaction. How do you think explosions work? All forces generating by particles hitting each other are external to each other. The rocket isn't a single "body" that requires a force externally to push it. Do you think that? Really? What do you think the fuel is doing then? You are the guy who thought a blue background showing a grid was a blue screen though remember that? You were wrong there too. "Your" translation by the way was word for word the first result in Google.

It's ok, you are playing a game "I can argue any point, I'm really smart". I don't think I've ever seen you argue a single point successfully on this forum. Mostly because you make up nonsense ad-hoc, or copy known conspiracy grifters.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123048588#Comment_123048588

Questioning the sources and questioning the poster rather than the arguments - reminds me of another notorious ex-poster of the forum...

pressure created by a reaction

What is this supposed to mean?

How do you think explosions work?

Explosions work by the conversion of mass to a sudden expansion of energy in the form of heat, light and other forms of mass. If you are implying that this is how a rocket propels itself then you are misinformed. As the explosion is internal to the rockets system, it still requires an external force to propel itself off. Otherwise, net change in motion = 0. You can throw Newton's 3rd at me all you like - the system can't violate Newton's 1st

Giblet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049182#Comment_123049182

I just explained it to you. Its gases are propelled into the body of the rocket and out the exhaust in equal measure and every other direction in roughly equal directions, this propels the rocket, as the momentum is preserved by gases hitting the inside of the rocket and other gas particles within the rocket. The gases end up then, outside the rocket meaning the force is UNBALANCED along that vector (or similar vectors), so they do not cancel the force exerted in the other direction. This is easy to see here on earth too, you can set a pressurised can of soda in a vacuum and see it move before any material even leaves the can and hits the edge. So there we go, nothing wrong with the 1st law. So you lied about reading it, or didn't understand it. It's pretty easy to understand. Do you think it doesn't work like that? You should probably do up a paper and present it. You would earn millions.

Hoop66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123035381#Comment_123035381

Propulsion is impossible in a vacuum such as that which they tell us is in space.

You're not trying this again are you? If I'd been so widely ridiculed as you were the last time you tried to make this claim, and in the process showed that you have no understanding of basic physics, I'd never be seen again.

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Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049246#Comment_123049246

That's simply not how physics works. If you release a high pressure in a vacuum it will simply vent to fill the space. It's not going to propel you anywhere. It's internal so would break Newton's first law if you think it would move the system. I've heard all the examples before, I've looked at all the "proof" that people sent me saying "Newton's 3rd law allows us to propel ourselves everywhere" then show videos of cartoons with someone flying around on skateboards after throwing a bowling ball or that guy with the fire extiguisher propelling himself around the US. Those videos are all fraudulent or are using sketchy artistic license. Nothing can propel itself without a medium around it full stop. Not sure where you are going with the "can of soda"

Also, stop throwing around accusations of "Lies". You really aren't doing yourself any favours…

Hannibal_Smith

Folks, the discussion is not about how rockets work. Keep to the topic. Any further off topic posts will be deleted and warnings will be applied.

Giblet

So while there is nothing in Physics preventing the act of travel as discussed and agreed by any serious physicist, the distances and time involved mean that it's a very difficult problem to solve no matter how advanced you are, as you would think civilizations that could do interstellar travel, would limit themselves to local stars first, and probably with very simple craft that do nothing more than survey first. While a billion years of additional evolution may solve that issue in some cases, the bigger issue is that pretty much every UAP has turned out to be something just ordinary… I've seen a few debunked cases where the "speeds" of the UAPs involved are just parallax, but still rolled out as proof by UAP experts.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123053795#Comment_123053795

Indeed, as for sightings, around 90% of cases are parallax (as per AARO) and the rest of them are aircraft or drones or artifacts on gimbling cameras or radar.

There are few remaining that haven't been 100% identified (however there are some strong theories) which is understandable. Millions of cameras pointed at the sky (or underwater) are going to produce pieces of footage that can't be 100% identified.

None of the recent revelations from people like Grusch or any others turned out to have any verified evidence, it was all hearsay. Much of which could be linked back to a core of believers.

As for the "East Coast Drones", it looks like it's related to people looking at the night sky and seeing aircraft, helicopters and drones - thinking they saw "something", going on social media with it, causing more people to look at the night sky creating more cases, turning it into a thing. Confirmation and selection bias.