good lord I’m having a hard time digesting the rear. It looks so out of place.
Front is an improvement I’d say n
Definite improvement. Show me 7 seats and I might bite.
because of the autoshift update being so good it means you never change gear, the car does it for you in all situations. So a gear shifter is defo not required… ref to posts by @technocrat & @frank730
I like the new design but I agree about the back. I don’t like the squared off look compared to the older one.
The reg plate on the lower valance is throwing me too.
It may grow on me though.
Design inspiration in 1, 2, 3….
Not a sniff of 40k for a RWD 231 even if it has the premium wheels. 32k maybe
I know of a 231 LR with 20” wheels that sold privately for €40k this week. Think it had AB too. So yeah, a RWD, less.
Madness to pay €40K for that no matter what wheels are on it.
Why?
€60k new. Decent saving for someone that was buying. What’s the fixation with the wheels? And not everyone lives by the EV bargain thread.
I assumed this is a LR AWD which wouldn’t be that much more that €50K new ? If you’re quoting €60K new, then it must be a performance version which is a different animal. €40K is still top money for one. No fixation with wheels but everybody knows upgrade wheels on a used car mean very little. It might sell a little quicker over one without. Optional extras rarely hold any meaningful value on used cars.
LR in Black with Induction wheels and Acceleration Boost is €62,568 to buy new. I think you are the one mixed up here.
Yes. I wasn’t aware it was over €60K new.
What are your thoughts on the new model y Mr. Gumbo?
I like it. Facelift progression. Removes the frog eye look. They kept the stalks which is good.
Looks like a mix of BYD, Prius and that xpeng car and the rear has a kind of Kona look. All brands chasing the lower CoD.
Nice improvement and it may sway a few new buyers.
Price will be key. Hopefully
Remains the same, especially with loads of competition out there and public opinions on CEO’s nowadays.
Yeah, looks a lot better at the front alright - pricing will be interesting?
I wouldn't trust it in a tight car park where I wanted to make a 5 or 6 point turn to get around. Richard Symons tried it on a YouTube video and you have to keep looking at the screen to make sure the car has selected the correct direction of travel. Not particularly intuitive.
funnily enough this exact situation is where it excels… don’t knock something until you’ve actually tried it yourself.
I'd still prefer the stalks tbh. Having to keep looking down at the screen to make sure the car has selected reverse and not stayed "in gear" is a pain.
I think the removal of the gear selector isn't a move forward. Few times I've got into my M3 and the screen has stayed blank for up to a minute. No issue with the gear selector.
I think there are some hidden buttons to switch gear as well? They might be active with a blank screen
Edit: above the mirror
They are. On the headliner. Physical buttons that light up on touch but someone said they are now gone on the new model?
And you can turn auto shift off for those that are afraid.
"Those that are afraid" Lol.
The issue isn't fear, it's rank stupidity. A lot of it about. For reference check out the dashcam thread.
LOL
For those afraid of the system, turn it off and revert to the standard. I don’t know what’s LOL about that?
Because it's funny? Nobody said they were afraid of it, just that they didn't trust it. Not exactly unexpected given some of the high profile failures of Tesla's systems. Like self driving for example.
Ok, if you have to explain the joke……
But I see your gripe now and where your coming from. 👍
If it's auto gear shift you are talking about, I tried it in work, instead of reversing it took me towards a low pillar, had I not intervened or been extra aware I would have hit it. I've turned it off and not used since. I don't find gear changes that cumbersome via the screen in the slightest
I’d say the buttons above the rear view mirror are still there but that person doesn’t realise they only light up once you touch them.
Very possible alright.
Sure i seen on the Irish EV Owners FB Group the other day, some fella thought you turn the indicators on by using the centre screen and you turn the wipers on by the screen too! Just shows the misinformation out there!
Hmm….maybe. It was me that said they weren't there on a brand new demo M3 last Thursday. I looked but couldn't see anything - but was expecting the physical buttons that had been in another demo car afew days earlier.
Irish Y sales were 2,200 in 2023, the first full year of sales, but dropped to 1,200 last year, even with the price drops.
I don’t think this facelift is enough to reverse that trend 🤔 . There’s just not enough useful incremental changes, certainly not in the way the highland seemed to move the M3 forward - the €37k white highland is a very appealing product, compared to all Freemont and MIC versions that preceded it.
This new Y is pretty much the same car as the original.
Only 1279 MY Sales in 2024 so that number will be maintained i think. The initial surge for all new cars tends to die after the first year of its release.
Another factor in 2023 was the perception for some that you we’re now getting a €70K Premium EV at a knock down price.
