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The Truth: The Mathematical Proof of God, The Holy Trinity

kingiyk

I present The Truth: The Mathematical Proof of The One True God: The Holy Trinity. Within this text is The Proof, beyond an ounce of doubt, by way of the language of the Universe: Mathematics, that The Triune God is The One True God and The Holy Bible is His Word. View attached file to Review and Confirm.

The Truth, The Mathematical Proof of God, The Holy Trinity, The Book With The Seven Seals. King Iyk instagram(king__iyk).pdf

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Pherekydes

Probably not the right forum for this. Maybe try Christianity, Conspiracy Theories, Mathematics, or After Hours.

smacl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123035813#Comment_123035813

Mod: No issues with discussing religious concepts and ideas here, just as long as the opening poster is aware that they're likely to receive a critical response to both their post and underlying belief system. For example, Christian numerology is not exactly a new subject and nor is numerology unique to Christianity, you see it popping up in all sorts of occult and religious beliefs. Anyone doubting this should take a trip to China some time. Maths is fun, but it is a rather silly non-sequitur to postulate that patterns we see in mathematics or the natural world prove the existence and any given god or occult belief. There are any number of articles debunking numerology, the first one the popped out of a google search here isn't bad. Should the OP or anyone else here fancy discussing this further, go for it, that's why this forum is here. Keep it polite please, reasoned criticism of beliefs, ideas etc… is great, personal attacks, unsupported vitriol and soap boxing are not.

Hotblack Desiato

There wouldn't be much point starting such a thread in Christianity, would there? (talk about preaching to the choir!) as clearly the intent is to convert. People who are already believers don't need proof.

Well since Pluto was downgraded, there are only eight planets… same as between 1846 and 1930 (because planets don't exist until they've been observed 😉 ) although using planets not mentioned in the bible (and the concept of a heliocentric solar system which was long regarded as heresy) to support the supposed truth of the bible is rather silly

Saying 'there are X books in the bible' is also rather questionable to say the least as denominations don't agree. (Most Protestant denominations choose - because it is a choice, made by humans - 66. But RCC 73, Ethiopian Orthodox 81…)

The first number is not one, it is zero, as every Real Programmer™ knows.

The assertions made beneath the silly little sums don't follow. They are plainly unsupported assertions to fit the poster's religious view. In other words working backwards from the conclusion in a desperate attempt to present "evidence" which is, of course, nothing of the sort.

We are no futher along here than we are with Douglas Adams' great analogy of how a sentient puddle would believe that the hole it is in was made for it, since it fits perfectly!

Will the OP ever be seen again - magic 8-ball says "outlook not so good".

kingiyk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123036699#Comment_123036699

You are right to highlight the fact that there have been many many attempts to prove God through numerology and all have been proven wrong with concrete critique. This, However, is The Truth which I present to know. You could take it to the best of mathematicians and they all would struggle to find a flaw.

The believe that God cannot be revealed through the language of the Universe, Mathematics, is unfounded and The Proof attached proves it.

kingiyk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123036899#Comment_123036899

"Well since Pluto was downgraded, there are only eight planets"

Many planetary scientists advocate for a simpler definition, focusing on intrinsic properties like size, shape, and geological activity. By this standard, Pluto would easily qualify as a planet. Pluto exhibits active geology, seasonal changes, and surface renewal processes not seen on most asteroids or other small bodies. These features reflect internal heat and dynamic systems akin to those of terrestrial planets. Unlike asteroids, which are often fragments of larger bodies, Pluto is a primordial object that has retained its integrity since the solar system’s formation.

"Saying 'there are X books in the bible' is also rather questionable to say the least as denominations don't agree. (

MostProtestant denominations choose - because it is a choice, made by humans - 66. But RCC 73, Ethiopian Orthodox 81…)"

There are many denominations and they all cannot be correct in their doctrine. The Truth has been revealed.

Hotblack Desiato

There are bigger objects than Pluto which are not regarded as planets. It also is not gravitationally massive enough to have cleared its orbit of other objects. That's why it was downgraded.

Before 1930, would you have been making an argument that 8 planets were proof of something something in the bible? Because nobody had observed a ninth.

You are still asserting "truth" based solely on assertion. Martin Luther's "truth" of 66 books beats the Pope's "truth" of 73 books, because…..?

o1s1n

I had a look at your document OP as I generally find numerology quite humorous.

So let's just say everything in your document is true (and Pluto is still a planet, when it's not) - how does it prove the existence of the Christian god?

What does it actually say?

And just to add to that, why is your bible numerology correct and other religions numerology not?

cdgalwegian

My God, by this rationality, 333 means that God is only half the value of the Devil. Or did I get the maths wrong?

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039128#Comment_123039128

Does this make dialling 999 a type of idolatry?

cdgalwegian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039134#Comment_123039134

Technically, I think it's witchcraft, which would also include practicing the use of 111. We need a new Council Of Nicea to sort out this numerological disaster. Otherwise people will continue to unwittingly consign themselves to the flames of hell.

kingiyk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039066#Comment_123039066

Because The Triune(Trinity) God is the One True God.

kingiyk

It could also mean that the devil strives to be like God due to unearned pride. [Isaiah 14:14]

kingiyk

It could also mean that the devil strives to be like God due to unearned pride. [Isaiah 14:14]

smacl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123038145#Comment_123038145

The maths in your document doesn't go beyond addition and multiplication, it hardly requires a mathematician to get to grips with, pass maths at inter cert level is more than adequate here. Nor is there anything in your document that looks anything like a mathematical proof from where I'm sitting. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to which type of mathematical proof you are specifically claiming.

Looking for word patterns and letter sequences in a large document that correspond to numerical sequences does nothing to support the notion that the story told in that document corresponds to reality. If you went searching in any sufficiently long document, e.g. The Lord of the Rings, you'd find the same correspondences. It doesn't encourage us to believe that Hobbits exist.

cdgalwegian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039865#Comment_123039865

Precisely. Looking for patterns in a theological text, using a conceptual system of patterning - as proof of a belief system - is simply proof of the power of imagination and cognitive bias. To keep it in the realm of literature, this is a less amusing version of a Dan Brown Catholic church conspiracy-style novel without the conspiracy aspect; a join-the-dots game, as it were.

Lorddrakul

Apart from the fact that the document contains nothing but arithmetic that adds up to SFA, the various assertions as to anchoring facts for the infantile numerology are also vacuous.

The bible, depending on which version you are talking about, varies from 66 to 80 books. If you start looking at how that came about you see that there was a very human, arbitrary process to decide what was included.

The point has already been made about the number of planets in the solar system. And if you want to get really tinfoil hat about it, what about Nibiru, Vulcan and Planet X?

Also the cross transposed onto the clock is a good one. The clockface as we use it is only one representation of the division of the hours, which again, are an entirely arbitrary, human invention. There is also strong evidence from various places that crosses used to crucify people by first century Romans, were more often than not headless (as in T-shaped), and not the stylised ones we know today.

Furthermore, the idea of the Trinity only emerged about 100-150 years after the chap who might have been who we call Jesus actually died. It was then retrofitted by a powerful church later to fit its needs.

And finally, I was truly lost to the point of this when I read the triune god was "Equal in Diety [sic] & Divinity, Unequal in Power & Authority and the same in being."

I love a good diety, me — low carbs, high protein.

kingiyk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123036899#Comment_123036899

If the first number is zero, then you should have 9 fingers on both your hands. 4.5 on each.

kingiyk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039016#Comment_123039016

It was Man's knowledge of the Universe that was limited. The solar system has always been comprised of 9 planet.

The Deuterocanonical books, contain teachings that are inconsistent with the rest of Scripture. For example, certain practices like purgatory, prayers for the dead, and the veneration of saints are based on these additional books but are not found in the 66-book Protestant Bible, which emphasizes salvation by faith alone and direct relationship with God. The 66 books of the Bible are seen as more accurate because they align with the original Hebrew canon and maintain theological coherence and align with the broader message of Scripture.

smacl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123040816#Comment_123040816

To be clear 0 is the first whole number whereas 1 is the first natural number. There is no first number, only first numbers in certain ordered sets of numbers. e.g. there is no first integer, no first real number and no first angle.

kingiyk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123040507#Comment_123040507

"The bible, depending on which version you are talking about, varies from 66 to 80 books. If you start looking at how that came about you see that there was a very human, arbitrary process to decide what was included"

The Holy Spirit inspired the writing of the Bible. The Holy Spirit guided the words and thoughts of the biblical writers, leading them to write what God wanted them to write - 2 Timothy 3:16

Nibiru is a myth, as opposed to Pluto, whose characteristics and orbit have been extensively studied and documented.

"Also the cross transposed onto the clock is a good one. The clockface as we use it is only one representation of the division of the hours, which again, are an entirely arbitrary, human invention. There is also strong evidence from various places that crosses used to crucify people by first century Romans, were more often than not headless (as in T-shaped), and not the stylised ones we know today."

Romans 5:6 justifies the clock fixed into a time clock: "For while we were still weak, at the right TIME Christ died for the ungodly"

These Are Facts

Interesting, however consider also the golden mean/section 1.618033 or it's inverse 0.618033 as a ratio.
This is present across the entire universe as an 'intelligent design' or code. Formulated by a God or Creation Programmer.

Separately, there are 65 major moons in our Solar System, and many smaller ones. But only we enjoy perfect solar eclipses and have a moon facing our planet, which has a phase that matches a human woman's menstrual cycle of 29.5 days.

The Moon is 400 times smaller than the Sun.
The Moon is also about 400 times closer to the Earth than is the Sun.
As a result, the size of the Moon on our sky matches the size of the Sun.
And since they appear as round disks, they match in both size and shape.
This tight match between Moon, Sun Earth only happens during a narrow window of human life on Earth’s history.

and so on, and on intelligent design is everywhere…

Lorddrakul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123041070#Comment_123041070

So, which bible are you settling on then? There are many to choose from.

Secondly, from a logical standpoint, citing the very document for which you are arguing as to the validity of that document is circular and redundant.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123041081#Comment_123041081

Is it intelligent design? Or is it a series of patterns that emerge due to the basic make up of things?

Jumping to a conclusion of supernatural forces to explain things is an abdication of responsibility to question further.

Nothing in what has been revealed by human curiosity and study has thus far required a supernatural explanation.

These Are Facts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123041182#Comment_123041182

Likewise, the dismal of Universal inteligent design, as 'random chance' is an abdication of responsibility to question further.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039911#Comment_123039911

Especially one which has been added to, edited, and translated, many times.

So OP maybe you should be applying your analysis to the Koran 😉

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039293#Comment_123039293

We haven't moved on from bald assertion I see.

The Holy Spirit inspired the writing of the Bible. The Holy Spirit guided the words and thoughts of the biblical writers, leading them to write what God wanted them to write - 2 Timothy 3:16

It's true because it says it's true?

It's hardly going to have a verse somewhere saying the whole thing is made up, now, is it?

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123040816#Comment_123040816

Arguably we already do… unless you play guitar or piano or some other instruments you'd hardly miss your little finger, it's not up to much!

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123036899#Comment_123036899

C'mon now! If dwarf people are still people surely it follows that dwarf planets are still planets 😉

Lorddrakul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123041666#Comment_123041666

I have not used the term random chance and wouldn't.

Universal intelligent design is just as useless a term in this context.

Patterns are not an necessarily indication of intelligence, nor is randomness and indication of an absence of it.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123039293#Comment_123039293

Your understanding of non Christian religions is quite lacking. There are Trinity/three type beliefs in other religions too.

For example:

'The Trimurti[a] is the trinity of supreme divinity in Hinduism, in which the cosmic functions of creation, preservation, and destruction are personified as a triad of deities.'

What if your numerology is correct, you've discovered there is a creator via you maths, but you've actually inadvertently proven Hinduism to be correct?

I still don't see how any of your numerology proves the Christian god to be true. Particularly given how wildly definitive the title of your thread is.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123041081#Comment_123041081

Coincidence.

Eclipses are interesting because of how they were recorded throughout human history as noteworthy events. Also can permit astronomical observations which are not otherwise possible. But they are of no significance in themselves, unless you're into astrology and 'planetary alignments' and all that guff

The moon was orbiting the earth for a very long time before any mammals evolved to align their menstrual cycles with it. You might as well wonder why we feel tired and alert on a 24 hour cycle…