Don't worry too much about it, we will have more schemes and more restrictions on packaging over the next few years.
The doomsday whinging and crying about the DRS will die down as the pressure to recycle gets even bigger on other items.
No need to remember it, have a common system people register their details on and scan a barcode, or even better tap your debit card.
Why don't we go the whole hog and follow the Chinese and bring in AliPay and the likes to keep an eye on everything we do, maybe even earning social points for bringing back bottles.
If everyone had a single app, it could count who bought the most bottles and didn't return them. They could be singled out for public shaming as well.
Great idea of yours.
It would be an app. Store up your deposits from scanning QR codes instead of printing vouchers. When you get your IBAN from a bank statement or online banking save it in the app to transfer the amount you want whenever you want. Or donate deposits easily from your phone on your own terms.
After doing our bit for a "better tomorrow" why should paying customers be dictated to on where and how to get our own money back? The option should be available for those that want it.
Not sure why the sarcasm, I've been against this scheme from the start.
Strawman nonsense. Absolute nonsense as demonstrated by the experience in other EU countries.
Why don't we copy one of our EU peer countries, you know the ones we were told we were copying a successful scheme from?
Weren't we told it was a great idea because it was working in places like Denmark?
Remember those or has that been memory holed by you?
In Denmark, you can even download an app that'll deliver the deposit straight back into your bank account.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2024/1122/1460599-ireland-deposit-return-scheme-innovations/
No you came up with that idea. Along with people being expected to memorise their IBANs for some reason.
Anyone else notice sometimes when you put in crushed cans it takes the cans alright but doesn’t give you anything for it? This has happened several times?
And again.
DRS is not about recycling. The only thing which is recycled is aluminium but that was being recycled even without DRS. Plastic waste is only collected. We do not know how much of it is actually recycled if any. Simply because plastic bottles recycling is not profitable therefore most of it end up on landfill or incinerator.
Call it recovery because that is what it is. It is not recycling.
Huh?
I reckon all Irish people wouldn't know their IBAN off by heart.
But it's 2025 you don't have to.
Login to your banking App, go online or look a statement it will be there.
Asked my parents yesterday what their IBAN was and they looked at me blankly, as did my son today.
IBANs aren't accessible.
If you asked me what my IBAN was I couldn't tell you, but I could give it to you in seconds.
Do you use a banking app, banking online, do you have a bank statement?
IBAN's for the majority of people are accessible.
It would take you 2 minutes to show them how to access their IBAN but if they couldn't or didn't want to the paper receipts could remain with the option of a digital payout for those who do know how to use online/mobile banking.
Nothing in it for the large stores that are charged with running the nuts and bolts of the scheme.
The scheme for them is about driving footfall away from the smaller retailers to them.
If it wasn't they could have produced a universal receipt to be used in any retailer.
This is it. ....
When you start a new job you have to give payroll your IBAN so they can pay you.
You'll sure as shit find out what it is then.
I wonder if Re-turn have system capability to pay by IBAN.
They don't have an app, the height of their technical capability seems to be dropping pins on a Google map, and they can't even support a way to use a voucher from one store in another branch, etc. On top of that, the extent of their ingenuity would seem to be container holders around public bins or paying students to harvest containers at festivals for childers charidees.
I strongly suspect their financial systems are only capable of a 1:1 closed link from an RVM to a store, i.e. a fairly limited capability.
The innovation might need to come from the retailers, i.e. scan your receipt and it becomes credit on your Dunnes / Tesco app that you can use next time you pay. At least retailers they have some capability, a willingness to innovate and an installed base of users to begin with.
To be fair they are not hiding the fact that is what are doing.
It is unashamedly heralded on the Re-Chit-Ching website.
Potential to increase consumer footfall as consumers return their empty beverage containers to get their deposit fee refund.
The reality is we are the hamsters.
To get hamsters to what you want to do, you place a nut at the end of the maze, but you put barriers up because you want the hamster to do what you want.
Putting reclaimed deposit credit on an app is hardly innovation. It's 2025.
It wasn't done because it doesn't benefit those who benefit from this scam.
We will continue to do what we are told in order to get the nut which unlike a hamster we already paid for. At least the hamster is gaining something from his work.
It is genius really.
My mother doesn't have a phone capable of WhatsApp.
I didn't ask about your mother or WhatsApp.
I asked.
People don't want credit. They want the money that's being fleeced off of them by Re-turn back.
Since when is what people want a priority?
I was giving the example of my mother earlier, she doesn't know what an IBAN is, does all her banking over the counter, and doesn't own a phone capable of handling a bank app. She is not unique.
She heads down to the shops with her six or seven plastic bottles weekly to get her money back though.
Would you ever stop the nonsense about people who wouldn't use refunds to bank accounts. Is your mother on Boards? Should we not have Boards if she doesn't use it? As already suggested IBAN refund should be available for those that want to use it.
such a shite scheme almost half the bottles not accepted by the machines a complete disgrace of a scam
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Some people dont have credit cards therefore credit card payments should not be allowed in shops!
This is the equivalent of the strawman you are trying to reduce things to.
Or you know, as is done in countries like Denmark, refund by app should be a supported option for those who want it.
I never mentioned your mother. Your the one who keeps bringing her up for some reason.
Given your refusal to answer my simple question I can conclude that you have ready access to your financial details as do the vast majority of the country. Would that be fair?
Your mother would be an outlier, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't be catered for. No one is suggesting otherwise.
His mother could look at her statement or ring her bank and ask what her IBAN number is.
All of this is just bloody nonsense. 🙄
That isn't in any way normal
What types of bottles, and indeed where are you getting said bottles from?
