Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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The only "local" that she patronised was the one where the owner spoke French. She'd have tea and a chat with him, on the very few occasions that she went there.
Not your Irish, chatty, social type at all. The local people seem to have known that the cottage was now owned by a Frenchwoman as a holiday home. Hardly anyone knew anything of her in person, except the housekeeper, housekeeper's family, the next door neighbours, and a couple of people who could speak French. This was all established by investigation early on, since many murder victims know their killer. But Ian Bailey really didn't know her at all - may have been introduced once, by the neighbour! The police tried STRENUOUSLY to show a connection - as you have proposed, above - but they failed completely; he just didn't know her.
There are a lot of holiday homes in West Cork, and many of them are owned by rich people from other places, and they lie empty much of the time. Such was the case here.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-analyse-ian-bailey-podcast-and-dna-in-sophie-toscan-du-plantier-investigation/a119950679.html
Technology to look at body language to detect lies.
Mother a God;
"I also know that they are examining his podcast series, technologically. They absolutely can use technology to determine if there is a probability if someone is lying by both their words and tone. This analysis is happening.”
I reckon Sophie fitted the sort of woman that Bailey felt was his type with her connections and status, he had illusions of grandeur and probably felt she should automatically feel the same towards him as this sophisticated writer living in this backwater. I reckon he went there in the night thinking she would be delighted to have him at her door. He didn't get the reception he wanted or the expected night of passion, his ego was bruised and the beast that we all know was in him came out and he murdered her violently as happens in crimes of passion and where people are rejected who can't cope with it. He was well capable of it.
Good research? An intrusive collection of rumours and half truths more like. And to what end? You`d have to wonder about the motives of some of these Reddit contributors.
Its telling that those seeking to tie Bailey to the murder need to rely so heavily on pseudoscience and wild speculation.
Maybe just join the dots
At least they're looking at DNA. I'll be interested in seeing those results.
Show me the hard evidence.
That's why he got away with it, sometimes it's just not available, witness, CCTV, external scene in winter, but that doesn't mean that you can't look at circumstantial evidence like the suspect admitting to people he did it, poorly explained injuries, history of violence towards women, missing from the house at the time, lunatic type behaviour. It's staring us in the face. But I won't prove he did it and you won't prove he didn't. Maybe DNA will in time.
Here we go again 🙄
"But I won't prove he did it and you won't prove he didn't."
The burden of proof is on you. Innocent until proven guilty.
Got away with what? There is no evidence tying him to the murder. Tell ya what, you come back when you have something that meets the the basic standard of evidence. Not pseudoscience or pub talk.
Thanks.
He was found guilty of murder in France. It should have gone to trial here but for a poor decision by the DPP at the time.
The trial without a defence. Laughable.
You should actually read that DPP report since you care so much about this case. (Hint: there wasn't any evidence tying Bailey to the murder)
Bailey chose not to defend himself, say no more.
Because the french legal system is a farce, which is why you can have a trial with no defence over there.
Still no evidence tying Bailey to the murder.
In your opinion
Still no evidence.
If it's just my opinion, then prove me wrong. Provide the hard evidence.
Oh that's right you can't. Because it doesn't exist.
I answered you a few posts back, you must of missed it, I'll dig out the conviction from France and post it later.
I responded. You appear to be getting quite emotional now so I'd rather not deal with someone in your state. I'll leave you here.
Still no hard evidence tying Bailey to the murder.
That's not what I meant, I previously read somewhere that the person who liased with the French at the time ended up being Garda Commisioner.
What hard evidence have you that I'm emotional
I think you are missing the point here..?
There is no evidence to tie Bailey to the murder, absolutely none.
The DPP reached this conclusion, hence there was no trial in Ireland.
It really is that simple…
No enough evidence in their opinion, not no evidence
The evidence gathered and put forward by AGS to the DPP was unable to withstand the slightest level of scrutiny. Pick anyone else in the area and I'm sure you could gather similar amounts of flimsy evidence against them.
What we do know in terms of evidence is that the approach used by AGS appears to be compromised. With pages torn from the jobs book and evidence gone missing, along with allegations of witness tampering, it was always unlikely that Bailey would have seen the inside of an Irish courtroom!
Mistakes were made, that's why there wasn't enough evidence
So your approach to discussing this tragic case is to repeat old tropes and throw out one liner nonsense? Do you actually have nothing of substance to offer us?
Im just expressing my opinion, I thought that was allowed.
Of course youre welcome to share your opinion. But do you actually have anything of substance to share?
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