Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Sure, there's no need for the CCR now 🙄
If not guilt, what are you saying all this stuff is an indicator of then?
This sort of psychological profiling boils down to "Bailey murdered her, now let's work backwards to make it fit".
Whatever you do in life, don't go on trial in France.
ok.
of how certain truths could form a pattern. certain things fit together.
For example. Sophie was of a certain social background/status which would be VERY aggitating to a typical malignant narcissist. From what I know of that disorder any (even perceived) rejection from someone like sophie would be overwhelming.
A trait shared with approx. 1% of the population, that contributes nothing to solving the case
Studies have found that approximately one percent of the population meets the criteria, with six percent displaying narcissistic traits, such as a need for admiration and a lack of empathy. While they often wreak havoc in professional and personal relationships, few of these one percent will ever murder anyone.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-human-equation/202301/the-hidden-danger-of-the-homicidal-narcissist
Im sure this all makes sense to you, but it’s really hard to understand what point you’re actually trying to make. Seems like you’re stopping short of saying he’s guilty, for reasons unknown
I dont think anyone on an internet forum is going to actually solve the case.
Yes Ian was that 1%. And Sophie was just the sort to trigger his kind.
I find that interesting.
I wouldn't pronounce anyone guilty who hasn't been convicted by the courts. I believe in due process.
Im allowed to have suspicions though. I also find Alfie to be an interesting person in this case, his later death and what he is supposed to have said seems suspicious too. Unfortunately there seems to be little out there about him.
If that's what passes for evidence, I don't think anyone is going to solve the case.
Understood. It’s easy to go down the list of suspect too and recognise there are a lot of unanswered questions about many of them. In the shambles of the first few weeks the Gardai half assed everything and now we’re stuck with it unfortunately.
In a true cold case review perhaps we can hope a proper investigation could be pursued, but it feels unlikely.
You can take it as just information then.
Edit: as per your previous post re: percentage of population with npd. just information. it informs.
Like population stats for Schull. The population would have been around 600 at the time.
So going by the 1% there would have been 6 people with the same disorder as Ian locally. And 3 of them would have been women (statistically speaking). Leaving 3 males with the condition in the locality. Ian and 2 others. Going by available stats. Just information, not necessarily evidence.
this would be relevant if all homicides we’re committed by people with NPD.
In addition west cork is a Mecca for these types in Ireland, oddballs and weirdos by the dozen
The total length of the Irish public road network is approx. 99,830km. Just information, not necessarily evidence.
people with npd have an increased proclivity for violence and rage. and the disorder is founded on deep insecurity and inadequacy.
a rage killing happened within a convenient distance of one such individual with this disorder, in a small population, and the victim was of high profile, high social status.
Its not evidence of anything, but it may be a worthy avenue of investigation.
The many other types of west Cork may also be worth looking at, and I'd welcome any interesting information. 😎
"the victim was of high profile, high social status."
She was the wife of a French film producer. She made a few documentaries herself. It was the 90s. It was rural Ireland.
Even if it was 2025 most people wouldn't know who she is. She wasn't famous in Ireland.
I recall reading somewhere that a recently enough former Gardai commissioner liaised with the family and French authorities at the time, I think I also read he kept assuring them that they knew who the murderer was and they were building a case against him.
Can anyone confirm this?
Bailey was investigated thoroughly, doesn’t mean he didn’t do it, but it can be assured that almost no stone was left unturned in his pursuit.
Sophie was pretty much the opposite of high profile, she was very much low profile and had no social status in Ireland.
Even if the Garda Commissioner spoke with the family, all he knew was what he had been told by those involved with the case and we know that the details they had were (for wasn't of a better description) compromised.
So what you had was our senior garda telling the family compromised details. It's no different to the French court believing what they had been given by our police force. Should they have assumed that there were mistakes made whe the "evidence" was gathered?
Yes she was indeed the wife of a film producer. He was an ambassor for the French film industry too. He was part of the Cannes scene, would have known many famous people, that was his circle, and she was his wife.
In Schull terms it doesn't get fancier than that.
Seems odd really that they never got a private investigator to look into things. Someone who could give them unfiltered information. Maybe they couldn’t afford it, or maybe that’s just an old Hollywood trope?
And she went by her maiden name while in Ireland.
Sure, just ignore everything I said. 👍
She wasn't Tuscan du Plantier in Schull, she was just plain Bouniol, daughter of a dentist in Paris.
Edit,
As @Rooks pointed out.
She was still a rich Parisienne, and part of the Cannes scene, under any surname.
I doubt there was anyone as wealthy and connected in Schull in 96, or probably since.
You're pretending to not understand our point, and it's obvious, but for everyone else's benefit the point is that no one in Schull would have been aware of this "Cannes scene" and that she was a part of it. In fact, it appears that few people knew anything about her in the area, since she kept such a low profile.
Just a french lady called Sophie Bouniol, if they even knew her name at all.
word travels quickly in such small towns. she employed a local woman as housekeeper. she went to the local with friends.
anyone who kept their ear to the ground on local happenings would probably know she was of that social class.
like … a local reporter for example.
Ians job was professional noseyparker. Just sayin.
So she went by her maiden name but she just couldn't keep her lavish french life to herself. She told everyone down the local in Schull. Despite every report of her behaviour in Schull being about her keeping to herself.
I don't believe you are being genuine about anything you write here. It's very obvious that you're not.
'What do you do yourself' or 'where are you from' might come up if you're a stranger with an accent in a small town bar.
If you dont like what Im writing about thats fine. You can have your own opinion.
Have a read of this, a lot of good research gone into it.
As for ;
"she went to the local with friends."
Didn't happen.
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