Anyone subscribe to this? The website is fairly poor but it seems like you can't watch many games, but does have the facility to watch old All Ireland Finals which i'd be interested in.
I'd argue that if you have left Ireland you should consider that your a minority and a niche taste so to access such content was always and is always going to be via some type of pay service.
Also I'd argue that if you are in a new country you should be trying to elevate GAA in that country, as much as you can, including getting games stream/broadcast.
The whole arguement for GAA GO and Sky Deals was that it would provide some kind of support to non-Irish clubs and give them a boost. But we've seen this not to be the case after more than a decade.
Your last line is ludicrous.
A devoted GAA person abroad would have to pay to watch a match online.
Somebody in Ireland who couldn't be bothered getting off their fat ass and maybe going just two miles down the road to actually attend the match would be able to see it for free.
VMTV pretty much said no and then when off and bought league of Ireland rights.Perhaps the games are not all that important.
VMTV pretty much said no and then when off and bought league of Ireland rights.
Perhaps the games are not all that important.
VMTV said that they could only take rights if someone else was responsible for the actual outside broadcast (cameras/production van etc) and VMTV would then and air them.
The GAA wanted someone who would be able to do the whole thing.
As they now have LOI rights I am assuming some other entity deal with the outside broadcast aspect and VMTV air them.
It think TG4 offered but didn't get to buy them. VMTV pretty much said no and then when off and bought league of Ireland rights.
As I meant to say said laterally to Channel 4, just for Irish viewers not Britain. They have a slight foot in the Irish market. Very slight all the same.
Because as a tax payers we do give some funding to the GAA.
Anyway I don't really care, It is disappointing that so much sport is behind a paywall.
Why should someone who plays gaa abroad and pays fees to the gaa have to pay to watch, but someone who doesn't contribute in Ireland get to watch all games for free?
I'd much rather see all club members and season ticket holders get a significant discount.
TG4 and VM were offered packages. In fact everyone was offered.
You seem to have no clue how TV rights packages are bid for.
The idea Channel 4 would want it is hilarious.
Sky (yes they are FTA), TG4 and Virgin Media TV and then over to BBC NI, ITV (UTV) and/or Channel 4. But your last resort should be behind a paywall on GAA on the island of Ireland, and even on GAA+ it should be advertising based to pay for the tech stuff. and then sell the paywalled games to people abroad.
"You sell to other broadcasters"
Like who ?
So just because the GAA sell certain packages to RTE and get money from them (I'm not sure how much) they should be able to then broadcast everything else Free To Air
GAA should only choose to work with FTA broadcaster on the Island of Ireland. They get sporting rights from them to support their organisation, which is amature in nature. (for home audiences, this does not exclude Sky)
To stream games you need cameras, camera operators, OB production team, commentators.
Advertising that's why they have bought the rights to the games. GAA have sponsors and could put sponsorship on their streaming service at a premium. RTÉ2 basically survives on sport and I imagine so to does the RTÉ Player.
That's not going to be covered by the income you got from selling a package of rights to RTE.
You sell to other broadcasters or you make the games available to advertisers on your platform and make the games free online at the very least. (On the Island of Ireland)
As for the popularity abroad I think that in time GAA Go might be one of the biggest drivers of GAA interest for second generation Irish people in the world.
Possibly is and they can generate revenue there also, if you outside you get a subscription based service, but I am not aware of any UK or US or Australian based games streaming on GAA GO or how those "international" clubs are getting on since the setting up of GAA GO and the Sky Deal, surely at this point we are able to have an All Ireland featuring Texas or California or a welsh team potentially.
I've no idea whether GAA GO has lead to an increased interest in GAA among second generation Irish, but I think in years to come it may filter through.
I think we are at a decade of this by this point. Has it worked? Who knows?
@Fr Tod Umptious
I don't think the sums would add up on that one.
You need to pay for electricity, data backhaul, internet hosting services, graphics, production services, fuel for the OB trucks etc etc.
I lived in the US in the 90s and early 2000s.
At the time the only way to watch GAA was in a pub on a Sunday morning, and it could cost $20 just to darken the door.
This was not the ideal venue for Irish parents to bring their US born kids to watch games, they were dark, smoky and full of lads recovering form the night before and starting the Sunday session.
As a result there were very few families watching games, and there were very few second generation Irish playing GAA.
Then came GAA GO, where a family could sit around and watch GAA on a Sunday morning in their own house. The kids could see the big games, the big stars.
In places like Australia and NZ people could watch the games the next morning rather than in the middle of the night.
Completely different, you attending a venue the venue has to be maintained. GAA are getting sporting rights from the broadcasters so it is paid for at that point.
Still funny to hear the pro-Sky people give out about GAAgo, still no news on how the games are developing abroad!
So should every game be free to attend because it's amateur?
It should be FTA as it is an armature sports organization. What I think is funny is how the same deal was given to sky and so many people backed the GAA on it, then when it moved over to GAAgo they suddenly changed their mind.
How is the promotion of GAA across the world doing since the change, particularly in the UK?
It will be interesting to see the mutation of the complaints.
At the beginning it was evil sky/ paywall/ alleged prospect of all games being behind a paywall and death of the game (and not all Mayo or Cork or Donegal games are on telly which is a god given right to folks from those counties)
Then with GAAgo its feelings like wasteful RTE/ "should be free as I have a licence" / conflict of interest in game selection (and not all Mayo or Cork or Donegal games are on telly which is a god given right to folks from those counties)
I get the feeling that at the very least, even if GaaGo were in almost every other aspect doing everything perfectly, you will be left with occasional gale force whinges from Councillors/ TDs/ MEPs/ former intercounty pundits that not all Mayo or Cork or Donegal games are on telly which is a god given right to folks from those specific counties
Your still dealing with the same kind of market, with TV3 clearly able to make a market gain and then to be able to takeover UTV Ireland while providing a Pay Sports channel at the time? I think the CCPC might have more of an issue about the fact that RTÉ get 85% of the license fee than their 2 TV channels, one of which has less than 7% of the market and the one that gets the lions share of their sports coverage.
Yup. Virgin Media (Liberty Global) - https://www.ccpc.ie/business/mergers-acquisitions/merger-notifications/m15039-liberty-global-tv3/ GAAGO approval for international markets - https://www.ccpc.ie/business/mergers-acquisitions/merger-notifications/m17034-gaago-media-jvrte-gaa/ Issues with GAAGO's Irish ventures - https://www.rdj.ie/insights/ccpc-notification-requirements-for-full-function-joint-ventures/ One of the key phrases for GAAGO in their original international approval there would be "… will not be to substantially lessen competition in any market for goods or services in the State". RTÉ having control of the rights to all GAA Championship games in Ireland (TG4 only offer league coverage) would obviously clash with that. Whereas a company owning a couple of TV channels in a market with plenty of others (<20% of the television market share in '22, even less in Irish mobile/broadband markets) would be far less of an issue for them.
CCPC have a problem with RTÉ being a terrestrial and pay provider. And yet Virgin Media can own TV3? @TsuDhoNimh
They should have specific things, e.g. a season ticket holder can replay games.
If they took the the various platforms under their wing, then you offer a deal for all your club and county games for one county, with a discount for season ticket holders.
They already give a discount for GAA Members. Get your discount code off foireann
There will be very little change to the service or the matches other than "+" replacing "go" and maybe a subscription price increase
They should give a discount to Season Ticket Holders among others
Wonder will they combine with 'Clubber' and just have the one platform
Meet the new plus. Same as the old plus.
You can stop complaining about GAA Go and RTE since the GAA have bought out RTE
Get ready to start complaining about GAA+
I bought the annual pass last year (live in Oz). I found it a good service but I probably don't watch enough games and didn't get value from it. I just saw that the cost to get another year is $185 AUD (was doing some subscription management).
Typical of the GAA though.
I spoke to someone in gaago. New year supposedly. Missed window of opportunity.
A large part of why Sky walked away was that they wanted exclusivity over throw-in times, similar to what they have with Premier League soccer in England - e.g. if they were to show a match beginning at 4 p.m. on a Sunday, no other match anywhere in the country could clash with it.
In effect, it means no other match could start any later than about 2.15 p.m., in order to be well finished by the time of the televised match. Or if going later in the day, it would have to wait for the televised match to be over.
GAA rightly regarded this as a red line and negotiations broke down soon afterwards.
Are the annual passes not available to buy? Like I would think there is a massive market for this as a present for the father/brother/mother/sister who is hard to buy for at Christmas? I know what they are showing is up in the air slightly but I don't think a willing customer in the main would mind.
It could/should be different is kinda my point though, as RTE now have a great negotiating position if they only realise it.
Remember Sky walked away for reasons that aren't clear, but being 'dolled out' mediocre games by the GAA was plausibly a factor.
It will be no different to before.
Same as when it was Sky or TV3 showing games.
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