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Rosslare Port Terminal

road_high

Hadn't used it in years as a foot passenger until recently- they've really done a hatchet job on it haven't they? Total white elephant of a building now. Why were the convenient and handy walkways taken away and replaced with a crappy old drive-on mini bus? It was only built in 1989 so not that old in fairness. At check in (amazed this hasn't been replaced by a machine yet) I didn't even realise that is what you do now- i just followed the other passengers (over 50 of us so several relays) out to the car park where you line up in an ad hoc, random fashion for said mini bus and luggage piled into a Stena transit van. Whole thing is like something out of Fr Ted tbh.

Must be only about 1/5th of the terminal now used with a small coffee shop, toilet and check in desks. The Stena Europe itself is fairly grim too- certainly seen better days. It's all a pity as this would be quite an appealing way to travel if the train times were more frequent, to the terminal and convenient.

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road_high

I suppose the Oakwood day trips are a thing of the past too? Now the faster ferry the Stena Lynx is gone.

Geog1234

Agree with pretty much all of that. In my view the terminal building is okay - not perfect but always clean and warm in the winter. The upstairs departures lounge is the most comfortable area but probably not much point passengers going up there any more just to return downstairs (the walkway to the ferry extended from the first floor).

I've never seen any form of consultation or engagement with ordinary users despite the hype and gloss of some sort of stakeholder group in the local media.

Management have done a great job in building freight traffic but need to seriously review and walk through their foot passenger offering. And it certainly is worth bothering about as the numbers all add up both to the ferry companies and in terms of spending in local and regional economies.

It could be so much better...

Dempo1

It's been about 10 years since I used it so unsure of its current layout but gosh I recall it was an appalling grim, depressing world war 2 looking unwelcoming bunker, just depressing if stuck there for any length of time. Its Always astonished me that this port was the first thing tourist and visitors alike were permitted to see when arriving to Ireland with little or no effort to make it even slightly presentable.

I get its also a major cargo port but my god there was no excuse for its dour appearance. The best thing about Rosslare port was the road out of it, awful kip of a place

This said, I travelled to Fishguard regularly and that was even worse, ghastly sight to behold, so underfunded they were actually using a Digger and forklift to move padestrian gantry to and away from ferry. The village itself was like something out of sherlock Holmes, the hounds of Baskervilles, not a place I'd recommend staying a night in, actually ever, whatever hour of the day 😉

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117796095#Comment_117796095

Yes have to agree, I worked in Swansea and occasionally went the Pembroke, I found it a little better, didn't tend to stay to long😊

road_high

Actually didn’t think Fishguard too bad as a foot passenger- the “terminal” building doubles up as a fairly non descript railway station where at least you can just walk straight into from the ferry. No facilities bar toilets and vending machines but there’s only the one service to Rosslare unlike Rosslare which has several routes going on.

I was surprised there was so many foot passengers tbh- one man I briefly chatted to said it made more sense due to the cost of bringing own car. There is a market albeit a small one

blackwhite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058205341/rosslare-port-terminal

The bus for foot passengers means that they can handle a wider variety of vessels. If they are reliant on using the gantry, then every ship looking to accept foots would need to have a foots entrance at a suitable position along the side of the ship.

By using the bus, that limiting factor isn't there for ferry companies looking to use Rosslare

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117800910#Comment_117800910

Do many of the Rosslare trains even meet the ferries? Think there’s only 3 or 4 per day. That’s nearly a days travelling, you’d want to be pretty stuck- get a bus to Waterford instead only takes an hour or so.

Grassy Knoll

You would imagine the Greens would light a fire under CIE who operate Rosslare to improve the rail connectivity + the set up in the ferry terminal …

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119520646#Comment_119520646

On the cargo side - there is already a rail connected container terminal in the south east. Rosslare is a ro-ro port and would require huge investment to become a container terminal.

On the passenger front - there's no spare trains and there are more useful demands than reshaping the passenger timetable to match ferries currently. When more trains become available there may be some to provide more suitable connections; but changing the current timetable would remove services from larger groups of other passengers.

andrewfaulk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119522024#Comment_119522024

Rosslare handles containers, in small volumes but since the Finnlines service commenced there has been a reach stacker in operation on the breakwater to lift the containers off the cassettes used in the vessel and onto hauliers trailers.. CON-Ro means that STS gantries aren’t needed anymore..

However the volumes are quite small and the economics are unlikely to stack up for moving the containers onward by rail, although I wouldn’t rule out some containers arriving to Rosslare and being shunted to Waterford to move by rail..

Archduke Franz Ferdinand

l was in rosslare ferry terminal recently, there is a building program going on there that seems to be taking forever. Foot passengers now ferried on and off by bus, no customs control that l witnessed. On return One guard gets on the bus..”well lads, anyone here not an lrish citizen”… no one replied not even the three Russian lads. So the bus continued on its merry way. What a shambles….

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957071#Comment_122957071

How did you know the three lads were Russian?

Did you check their passports, or did they just look like they were in a hurry?

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957071#Comment_122957071

have to say I had the opposite experience lately-all passports checked, customs asked everyone had they duty free. And also sniffer dogs checking for drugs. Nothing on the Welsh side at all

Not made with hands

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957071#Comment_122957071

Where were you coming from?

No passport needed from Wales.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957214#Comment_122957214

Strictly speaking you are correct but passport checks are in place in Dublin Port and Rosslare.

They are hit and miss.

Sometimes they ask for the passport other times just ask you your nationality.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957214#Comment_122957214

No passport needed for Irish or UK citizens but definitely needed by all other nationalities.

Common Travel Area only applies to Irish or UK citizens.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122967339#Comment_122967339

Passports are only needed when coming from outside the CTA regardless of nationality.

If you think of it, the only way of knowing non-citizens is to check their passports, which you would also need to do for citizens as well in order to be sure

Most ports of entry in Ireland check your passport regardless of where you come from

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122974354#Comment_122974354

That is completely wrong.

They are absolutely needed by anyone who is not a citizen of Ireland or the UK when travelling to Ireland from the UK or vice versa. We don’t have common visas except in very limited circumstances.

Irish and UK citizens only need to satisfy immigration officials of their nationality and that they are entitled to avail of the provisions of the CTA..

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122974377#Comment_122974377

ID is all you need. Driving licence has been good enough on the ferry for me for years.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122974387#Comment_122974387

I’m assuming that you are an Irish or UK citizen?

The CTA only applies to those citizens as I clearly stated above.

Anyone else legally requires a passport or an EU Country issued national ID card.

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122974401#Comment_122974401

Correct.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122974408#Comment_122974408

Well then we are not disagreeing with one another.

I was referring to people who are not citizens of Ireland or the UK.

In my post I was correcting the assertion by the other poster that people who are not citizens of Ireland or the UK do not need passports when entering Ireland from the UK - they certainly do as they are not entitled to avail of the provisions of the CTA.