But the cameras aren't going to be monitored all day are they? The recording would likely only ever be looked at if there was an incident.
Ever heard of constructive dismissal? - or selective editing?
If I was a driver I would want some reassurance over this.
Total bullshít.
Can you give an example of how a driver could be constructively dismissed through the installment of CCTV in the cab of a train?
I can't fathom how a driver not breaking the rules set down in the job can somehow be fired for gross misconduct by the editing of CCTV footage in such a way that it would stand up in court.
The CCTV footage in the cab can show a driver doing something that is a sackable offence, only if the driver is actually doing something that is a sackable offence. You can't edit CCTV video to change the content of the video footage in order to get someone fired for gross misconduct..... That in itself would be a sackable offence, and most likely a criminal offence too.
Its a legal requirement in Australia to have in cab CCTV. Its where the industry is going.
It is not likely that a driver would be disciplined over a CCTV recording, but it might be a worry that needs to be ruled out.
In these days of conspiracy theories spreading on social media, it could need spelling out.
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/1127/1483372-bus-driver-caught-using-phone-loses-dismissal-challenge/
Why should it be ruled out? If a train driver is using his phone and causes a crash, why shouldn't he be disciplined and fired?
That was sarcasm.
The phone use is true though.
pictures or it didn’t happen.
Technically that's the whole point of the CCTV no?
If my boss told me he needs to put a camera above my desk to monitor me all day long for the job I’ve safely been doing for 20 years, I’d object to it.
Depends on what my job was. If momentary negligence on my part had the potential to cause serious injury or death to large number of people, then I'd be less likely to object.
The technology around supervising a driver's attention must be getting better in leaps and bounds if cars are anything to go by.
With all the high winds, travel alerts and DART line problems since yesterday evening, it has brought to mind a previous thought; that with most of the rail services in/ around Dublin even more reliant on EMUs and not Diesel traction (DMUs and locos) in the future, with the almost exclusively overground Metro-like service of the DART - services will seemingly become increasingly vulnerable to fallen lines and related due to winds and theft etc.
So I wonder in terms of 'resilience' will more BEMUs be purchased long-term for skeleton services to help cover incidences?
Would long-term, it also mean diesel or hybrid stock kept in a reserve of sorts (which i doubt), or additional diesel/ hybrid services, or longer train consists kept on lesser lines, to have some fat in the system, to fall back on for busier lines in case of problems?
CCTV is good, when it used for major infractions, Phone use while driving would be one. But not when for every single rule infraction, wearing the wrong colour socks for example.
if the tree is on the track nothing is moving
An effort to remove likely trees would help two fold, less trees fallen, fewer leaves
You would have to weigh the increased costs of having BEMUs as a standby against the savings. The savings are likely to be small (fallen trees are not all that common) and BEMUs require significant support infrastructure as well as being more expensive to purchase, more complicated and therefore quite possibly less reliable.
I don't think that the extensive OHLE networks in Europe have big problems with storms.
I pointed this out recently in response to a similar post,it doesn't matter what reserve options you have if the tracks are littered with stationary EMUs who can't move.
A conductor told me exactly where to stand in Thurles railway station one day after checking my ticket and he was spot on. The door of my carriage stopped right in front of me. So the railway workers have this knowledge already. Surely not a massive leap to have this information on platforms.
The guy in Thurles knew what type of train was coming. However different trains may use the platform daily: 3, 4, 5 and 6+ car ICRs, Mark IVs. Difficult to have somple markings to cover all eventualities.
Ah, it's actually the same in Japan, they had different colour markings for each type of train on the platform, with the colour up on the board along with the time and length. Quite intuitive, once you saw it.
I think, at least from my experience anyway, that drivers here have a much wider area in where they are to stop here, which would definitely throw off any markings.
Just expand the lines a short bit either side, and you should be covered. 22000 stop exactly where the driver wants. 29000 and loco hauled carriages can be a little harder to predict.
In Germany, they don't have paint on the floor but the platform is broken into platform 1A, 1B,etc. Then the digital display has an image of the train with numbers inside the carriages, and then letters below, so you know carriage 5 will be stopping between E and F
Technically IE already support a system similar to the above at a very limited number of stations (e.g. Heuston) so there's scope to support expanding it across the network but section all platforms 'per carriage' (with a little wiggle room for varying sizes between the new DART, ICR/Mark IV, 22000s on their respective routes etc)
Such a system is only worth the effort for high-frequency services like DART, as it can speed up boarding. Boarding on Inter City services is always much slower as more passengers have luggage, so there's little benefit for making passengers crowd around the doors.
I'd say the opposite. It is only relevant when you have short trains also using the platform (so you don't have people waiting a distance from where the train will actually stop) or you have various class of carriages (so if you want first class/restaurant/whatever, you know where to wait).
I know there are shorter DARTs now but with the new fleet, won't the length be standardised to full platform? Regular users will know where to stand to be near the door at stations they are familiar with. If the train is full length, you wouldn't be that far from a door that it would effect boarding.
That's exactly what the unions are at. Over in the UK, some of the train operators are bound by CBAs which state that rosters and rostering changes can only be communicated to drivers by fax. The unions admit it's ridiculous but insist that any modernisation will have to be accompanied by pay rises.
The union deal in Irish Rail has a new technology no escalation clause so no claim will be sustained for a new train type or technology. So no claim for new trains, ETCS, GSM-R etc…
Yet the company have already agreed to disconnect the equipment……..
"disconnect the equipment" - care to explain what this is, why they agreed to disconnect it and who exactly did they make this agreement with?
That is a very dangerous approach from the company. If new safety equipment is installed and the company disconnect it at the behest of drivers, and there is a subsequent serious accident, the company could be facing a negligence charge, possibly of a criminal nature if there are injuries and fatalities.
