I think it will be FF/FG again with god knows who. Hopefully a left wing party
It will be November 15th
Francie when a government make a mess of anything it`leaves an open goal for the opposition.
If the government made a mess of immigration, and that is what caused SF`s biggest issue, then rather than having an open goal, they made a bigger mess for themselves. Something that was entirely of their own doing.
Think it’s far more complex than that. But whatever.
Let me see can I understand this correctly. The government made some decisions, this caused issues for Sinn Fein, who lost votes as a result? Surely, this would only work if the government were making decisions that the people liked and that left Sinn Fein with a problem?
The exit poll showed FF & FG transfers to the Greens at 2%. Along with both FF & FG talking up Labour as possible partners during the campaign, if you`re hoping for transfers from FF & FG to save him then it`s highly unlikely.
If he did hold on why in heavens name did you get the idea that he could somehow be offered a Ministry ?
They started to go downhill quite quickly after the Dublin riots and looting just over 12 months ago. They were well ahead in the polls prior to that. They have really failed to capitalise on what has been a poor FFG govt. This should have been their moment but instead it'll just be more of the same.
To be fair, FG only going for 4th consecutive term in office because they have teamed up with their main rival to form the last govt. and will do so again. The two parties who have held power for the last 100 years have had to team up to remain in power. Also they have both refused to talk to SF about a coalition. None of the 3 main parties have what could be called strong support these days.
You should take some rest. Gather your strength for 4.5 years time. Who knows, a strong push and SF might lose over 20% of their FPVs again in 2029!
If the Soc Dems learn anything from history, they should remain in opposition, Labour will be only too happy to jump in with FF/FG.
They are well thought of in neighbouring constituencies as well. They represent rural Ireland and they work like dogs . Their views will never be polished enough for some but I would vote for them any day if I could .
I can’t find it on any of the sites but how did Shane Ross do this time ?
what policies are these and what outcomes will they have?
Why does the Irish electorate always take it out so much on the junior coalition partner? Labour and The Greens have both been decimated for their part in coalition governments. FF and FG have come away relatively unscathed this time but the Greens are paying the price. We'll never have anything but FF/FG at this rate. People seem content to vote for mediocrity. Can't see either of FF or FG strengthening over the other while they work together in coalition. People just see them as two cheeks of the same arse.
Labour were seen to sell out their voters regarding water charges. The Greens failed to construct an economic platform that delivers tangible environmental outcomes - the scourge of Greens EU wide. Having barmcakes like Ryan, O’Gorman and Hackett did not help their cause. Well done to the electorate in those latter two’s constituencies.
…and some folks seem to think no greens means radical changes, sorry to break it to you folks, not much is gonna change here, your kids, grand kids, nieces and nephews are goosed, which means we re all goosed, as ffg have a short term vision, especially when it comes to serious issues such as housing!
I am not a traditional Green supporter, vary much opposed to the carbon tax, although I don't know how much we can do about that nationally. But in other areas the Greens have been transformative. Rural transport has seen the biggest tangible improvement in decades. Where i live, local busses ended at about 7pm and all the promisses of FF anf FG down the years came to nothing. We now have a regular , affordable , local bus service used by many regular car drivers and all thanks to the Greens. Of all parties, while in government, they have succeeded in implementing more of their policies than almost any other minority party I can think of.
I am really puzzled by where their support went. Where are the people who voted for them five years ago?
Yes, impressed by the huge improvement in rural bus services. Fair play to the Greens for that.
from what I see whilst walking my dog the occupancy rate on said buses must run at about 5% and I’m being generous at that.
Again the outcome of the implementation is where it all falls flat - most buses not synched with working times. Medium sized towns are choked with traffic - no park and ride no orbital demand based mini buses etc. anyway hats off to the greens lots of empty buses drive around rural Ireland slowing down the cars who are actually taking people where they need to go.
Add in terrible time tabling and no user consultation in route creation times etc Unimaginative is the word. Up there with the money wasted on rural broadband
4 years ago the Greens got a boost from SF 2nd preferences, this year SF are running more than one candidate in this constituencies but also a lot of what was implemented by the Greens in government would be seen as not in keeping with what SF voters wanted.
There was also a lot more talk about the environment and keeping the right wing out in the lead to to the 2020 election
All of the above would have given the Greens a boost 4 years ago that they don't have today
In this case it's justified. They're responsible for increases on fuel costs with their carbon taxes with the corresponding increase in everything else . Then there's the fiasco of accomodation run by ROG for refugees.
Grants for EV and solar gone or going at Greens instigation.
as for transport. I'm 7km from the nearest town. Not even the Intercity buses stop at the end of my road . They have 2 stops on a 25km road. Neither me or my neighbours have seen this fantastic bus service.
I assume you are talking about Doherty. I think his more professional and intelligent personality played a huge part in where Sinn Fein are now.
He made them sound like a credible party in debates unless McDonalds.
Great news for Aontú and II, as they will now get State funding
a registered party is eligible for payments from the Central Fund in proportion to the percentage of total first-preference votes its candidates received at the previous general election - subject to a minimum threshold of 2% of the total first-preference votes.
Fascinating count here in Cavan Monaghan. As predicted Heather Humphrey's vote was not a wholly FG vote and has not followed the FG candidates. Aontu in the hunt too for the final seats.
With all the difference political parties out there it's lonely that 2% figure will have to increase surely
Without a doubt, not voting green was wholly justified but I think the point being made is why were FFG not also decimated? Anybody who's been to UHL recently knows the absolute chaos usually seen out there, homeless and housing crisis coupled with whatever the next crisis FFG create
I hope we're all looking at private health insurance today because the Slâintecare idea is officially dead in the water
Lisa Chambers FF to lose out in Mayo. A result of the tacit joining at the hip of FF FG. Had FF held FG's feet to the flame for their omerta over the incident and H. Naughton's support for an 'inappropriate texter', they might have taken the seat O'Brien's looks set to win. They looked the other way.
Great to see RTÉ are sparing us 2 days of O’Callaghan & Hannon.
Any updated seat projection
No, Daithi Doolin. Doherty is a blusterer. All angry man, no solutions from what I see
It's a conundrum alright. You could maybe explain their previous decimation by saying they didn't deliver much of their program but it would be hard for anyone reasonable to claim that this time.
Maybe it's just the proverbial fickleness of the soft-left floating voter: "bored with Greens now, time to give Labour another go"…
The greens did some good but it was all with an air of arrogance and a “we’ll implement our policies no matter what” attitude. Nobody wanted the DRS in the form it took but we got it anyway became we were rid it was for it own good and we should like it. Treating rural Ireland like pariahs for another thing. They got what they deserved.
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