A certain bang of the boring future accountant there all right.
Meanwhile the cool arts student spouting Heaney gets the girl 😊
Maybe the exemptions need to be revisited but as you say the maintenance of the RVM would be an issue.
aaaaaaaaaand its gone….
Luckily I have it saved to use forever and ever 😁
The loose bags on the street is only a small part of the problem too, although a very obvious one.
I posted on the TA thread a while ago how I was annoyed seeing a lady pulling bags out of large 1100 litre wheelie bins at Hardwick Street flats, domestic waste bins too, in order to find some slimy gold.
Approx 50% of the contents she was going through was ending up on the road as she was trying to dig deeper. Whether people were putting recycling into general waste or not, she was still going in to check and the street was covered in rubbish as a result. She didn't seem to be getting much from the bins, but the other waste still ended up outside the bins and blowing around the street.
Agreed that underground waste systems such as Molok underground is a good solution, but with the costs associated with installing them, investing in new trucks to empty them, and finding the space in cramped urban areas to fit them means the chances of that happening here is virtually zero. Maybe in new designed apartment complexes, but that won't address the existing problem.
Plus, if people are willing to go through the most disgusting of waste streams (and domestic waste is the most ick of all), i can imagine even implementing Molok resulting in kids being lowered into them on ropes to harvest the contents.
Just today I went shopping and when I went to leave the trolley back there on the ground was an empty Cidona can that wasn't there when I got the trolley.Just 20 paces from the RVM.
Just today I went shopping and when I went to leave the trolley back there on the ground was an empty Cidona can that wasn't there when I got the trolley.
Just 20 paces from the RVM.
But it's not just 20 paces to the RVM, it's 20 paces to the RVM, hope it accepts the bottle, get the voucher, and then what? Go in and buy a wispa and get 15 cent off it?
And if the machine rejects it, what then? It's another 20 paces to find a bin.
would love to see it and have it too for future reference how fast censorship works
It was gone within a half hour of it being referenced on this thread………
What is it ?
I assume it was as described in the original post on it - I don't know for sure as it had been removed when I checked (within 30 minutes of the post)
Ossian spouting about Green party policy "for a better tomorrow" looking for votes while waving a disposable vape about.
I see now what it is but where is it?
He led the campaign against disposable vapes so it seems highly unlikely he uses them.
Even more unlikely he'd allow himself to be pictured doing so.
Large return machine now installed at the Texaco garage in Newcastle (County Dublin) (picture is our local councillor, not yours truly 🤣)
A small step in the right direction for customers. Good to see.
We need a few hundred of them now country wide.
Proper recycling stats and IBAN deposit refunds next.
I just don't get why these weren't the default machines from day 1.
They're huge, so you need to build proper outdoor infrastructure for them… but some retailers (mostly Aldi) did have to build outdoor infrastructure for the normal size machines, and these machines were always available from the vendors. Question for someone in Aldi in the UK/any other retailer HQ to answer for them I guess.
Wrong thread
How does it process the cans and bottles? How can it read the barcode?
Looks like a sort of hopper that feeds the cans one by one onto a belt.
Good news.
Should divert some of the "black sack" people away from the standard machines.
I'd imagine it's a bit like a coin sorting machine just on a larger scale. It sorts the cans or bottles and then orientates it so the barcode can be read.
Not very difficult to do really.
The big question is why they didn't have them from the beginning.
There is a notice on the machine in the picture. Remove Any Rejected Containers, above the opening where they emerge.
I posted a video somewhere before on the thread, where there was a "normal" machine beside the big one. The person fed the rejects singly into the normal one, and got a few extra deposits back.
This bulk machine is a bit away from the 'usual' machine but, there is also one on site so you could take your rejects to it and try there. As this is in a service station, possible to pull up, dump the load and go - I guess they must expect a large turnover of cash as, unless people offset the refund to fuel they won't be buying a lot of groceries - we are dealing with bulk return and therefore, in theory bigger numbers than the single machine.
Just needs the ability for BACS transfer at the machine now.
This machine and, the shed it is in must have cost some money so there's obviously decent money in it for the retailers too if they can get the volume.
Its 2.something cent a container; plus the person reclaiming the receipt is going to your shop. EFT would take that 'incentive' away so don't expect that one to be common, if it ever comes.
In the Netherlands, you can tag and drop off bags at local recycling centres, they feed them in to a bulk machine like this and you get EFTed. However there is absolutely no appeal for mis-reads; and I still find some bottles that misread over and over and over again.
Just one of a number of questions that need to be answered about this farce.
We must be the first country to bring this in right?
From all the obvious stuff we didnt do?
Right?
A bit more about the new machine.
https://re-turn.ie/now-irish-recyclers-can-empty-an-entire-bag-of-drink-containers-in-seconds-introducing-tomra-r1/
I can understand the initial hesitancy in places buying bulk sorting RVMs, with the upfront cost and, especially, the uncertainty in how the scheme was going to be received. Anything that makes the process more efficient is welcomed.
Agree and getting rid of the Minister who oversaw this fiasco will help.
Not looking good for Ossian at the moment:
4 seats.
