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Irish General Election - Friday, November 29th *Read OP for Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Delighted that video of Harris has come out. If anyone needed convincing how awful he is, that sums it up.

    And his fawning brigade with their tongues hanging out in adoration of him. Pathetic individuals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,709 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    You might be a FG voter usually but please folks remember that man will be the leader for the next 4 years if you vote for any of his party. He's an insincere snob way out of his depth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,673 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    FG are a party of snobs as are their supporters. Just look at the likes of Richmond, O'Carroll MacNiell, Humphries, McEntee to name a few. They look down on anyone who may require the help of the state and make it as difficult as possible to get the help but then they bend over backwards to make sure those with money get the conditions to make more money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    The Greens hardly dictated policy.

    Labour or Soc Dems may, if in govt, try to block some legislation proposed by FFG, but on things like asylum immigration policy, FFG would get votes in the Dail from the independents to get over the line.

    Its not out of the question that FFG can form a govt by themselves. Some polls have them at over 90 seats.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,026 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Why the hell shouldn't somebody be able to buy a house on a single income? 

    Because they're competing with couples with two incomes who'll always be able to outbid them. Unless you want to bring back the marriage bar…

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Social welfare benefits to the serial unemployed have never been higher, under the current FFG govt.

    Local councils taking high end apartment blocks for social housing, govt paying well over 2k a month for unemployed people to live in nice apartments, plus all the medical card, free travel, and generous dole money, xmas bonuses for not working, the list goes on.

    You could hardly accuse the govt of being hardline on those that dont work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    And again, therein lies another proof of part of my point. Allowing competition, and the market, to dictate prices (and indeed giving people money to pump into the demand side of the market) has been an unmitigated disaster. Do you think house prices are currently sustainable, or indeed reasonable?

    Edited to add: the marriage ban ended in 1973. Let's not pretend like that was the last time a person or family could buy a house on a single income. My parents did so in 1980 on just a smidge over a single income. Many people did so in the mid to late 90s. Many people did so in the early 2010s after the price crash (my sister in 2013. Again, bought for 135k, now valued at 400k. Insanity.). Referring to the ban is clutching at straws.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    All rugby heads also and I know from years of experience rugby heads look down on anyone who isn't at least upper middle class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    The market always dicates the price, for everything.

    Are you saying all homes should be subsidised? If so, who pays for that?

    Could we also get subsidised pints for a euro in every bar in Dublin please?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    Harris and his PR people are going to have to call all sorts of favours in this coming week to make him look human after this. I'm expecting constant cheerleading from FGtalk, sorry Newstalk from Monday morning onwards with firm favourite Shane Coleman doing the legwork from the off.

    Not to be outdone RTE will be rolling out carers who have nothing but good stuff to say about life looking after their most vulnerable under this wonderful government of ours. 3 cheers for FFG, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I dont think many are saying FG are perfect, but whats your alternative?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    The market doesn't always dictate the price for everything. Certain things are public services, not commodities. There have been countless examples of such things even throughout Irish history. Electricity, was not always for profit on this country. Bin collection was not always for profit in this country. These are houses, for people to live in, that we're talking about. Not a particular luxury. Not pints on the weekend. To compare it as such as facetious.

    Are you in turn saying everything is hunky dory and the market is working just grand?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    There are social, affordable and cost rental homes that are subsidised.

    I would like see more govt owned developments that are mixed tenure. 33% social, 33% affordable and 33% cost rental.

    But the much larger, private housing market, will always be subject to market pricing and remain outside of govt subsidy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,673 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Would the majority be FG supporters?

    I wonder if we will see the FG attack dogs put away for the last few days and the likes of McEntee sent out to give a more emphatic side rather than the usual arrogance and heckling we see from the likes of Richmond and O'Carroll McNeill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Thanks for your reply and your perspective.

    By all accounts it seems The greens did exert undue influence on policy in the current government and it was widely reported that elements in cabinet were not happy with the constant threats to walk if they didn't get theirr way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Yes, nitrates derogation disagreement and anti-business decisions like not opposing the airport cap put the Greens on a collision cause with a pro-business govt; looking to retain the popular vote, nationwide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,709 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Im 37 and have never given them as much as a single paltry preference on the ballot paper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I nearly spit out my tea with laughter.
    I really hope they send McEntee out



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    So I went to see how much extra, the long term unemployed got extra this year, extra E12 a week! LOL, long term unemployed in Ireland! So the carers and pensioners got an extra E12 too. Do you know why it was E12 for these wasters? and why the politicians give it? because they fear being attacked, by the media if they "discriminate" … pity you have no problem bleeding workers and many working poor dry, to pay for your beloved welfare state FG… I believe those on minimum wage were about E250 a year better off after this budget.

    E250, the same as one welfare bonus to a long term unemployed person. How many bonuses are they getting now? it used to just be the Xmas one, they are now getting 2 , possibly 3 of these a year?

    Ireland, making work pay! Loooool! Pay for others cushy life, free housing, medical card, free transport…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,986 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Very gullible. They'll do sweet feck all for 4 years and then con you with more promises in advance of the next election.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    FFG new slogan should be "Welfare Wonderland"… They can hang a few posters in Dublin airport, when they arrive without their passports and are granted entry "welcome to welfare wonderland"…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,986 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Are there only 2 debates? Both RTE Bailout ones?

    I know Fine Gael refused the TodayFM/Sky one.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    The latter might still go ahead, with Harris replaced by

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭a2deden


    Its weird how left wing here and reddit is, just reading the threads would make it seem FFG are on the way out. I cant see any way Michael Martin is not leading the country again in 2025.

    I guess its similar to the american presidential race, looking here/reddit Kamala was a shoe in (logically she should have been lol), its just random such a massive echo chamber exists when it comes to this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    just reading the threads

    Were you actually?

    Because I doubt you'd find more than one or two people on the boards.ie presidential election threads in the month or so before the election saying

    Kamala was a shoe in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭dh1985


    The alternative would be to give them a good hard kicking by sending your votes elsewhere in the general election and let them go back to reasses their priorities around what the taxpaying people of this country both want and deserve from elected representatives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I wasnt agreeing with how much the long term unemployed are getting in supports, just saying the govt cant be accused of not helping them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    If FG were replaced by an SF-led left government they might well conclude that

    what the taxpaying people of this country both want and deserve from elected representatives.

    is taxing and spending even more…



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