It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Says the guy with an avatar with state of Texas flag and shape
Israel is whose ally ?
Of course it's hugely hypocritical, but are you implying this gives Russia a free pass for its actions. The Russians are no angels either.
Not at all. I am saying the same as you in that it is hugely hypocritical. I am saying if you put 18,000 sanctions on one country that is arguably doing less then it should be applied to Israel also, the same as any country.
When are BRICS countries gonna show leadership and sanction Israel?
I see you keep avoiding answering the question as it exposes the hypocrisy of your pointless whataboutery that does little to help the people in Middle East
But what else can we expect from Russia whom killed more people in Syria over a decade than IDF can dream of
I suspect that you might be right. There are certainly a few edgelords among them that I recall defending the indefensible on completely different topics in other threads.
Speaking of the UN Security Council and hypocrisy ,Lammy was very critical of Russia for blocking a UN resolution on Sudan, but not a word from him when America blocked the UN resolution on a ceasefire in Gaza . The last 13 months has really exposed the lies and double standards that certain countries were able to get away with for decades prior
Nice get out of jail free card.
Hey remember when the IRA were bombing london and birmingham?
I guess your exact logic would have allowed the british to flatten Limerick, Cork, Galway and Dublin to the ground and destroy our entire national infrastructure because the IRA weren't bound to international law and Britain were 'defending themselves' and there were definitely some members of Sinn Fein in residential areas of these cities at all times during the IRA campaign
Foreign policy is for each state to decide. I think the one rule is no sanctions between members, it is a good idea though. Anyway, probably if any individual state did, some of the " rules based order " would gang up and sanction them back or even worse, anything is possible by the looks of things if anyone dares to do anything.
Best off just letting these rogue supporters of the apartheid state isolate themselves even further on the world stage, it's punishment enough in the long run. Or maybe these countries should also get together and sanction them just for the complicity.
What? It is a US ally (though could argue Israel gets far more out of the relationship than vice versa). The countries (the EU members & G7 I believe it was) you are calling hypocrites for sanctioning Russia but not Israel mostly have very friendly relations with Israel, even if none of them will go to bat for it to the extent the US does.
It's kind of ironic that you appear to argue for Israel to suffer same sanctions from EU/G7 etc. as Russia for its crimes to avoid hypocrisy (reasonable on the face of it), when Israel itself has not sanctioned Russia or given Ukraine any military aid.
Ah but you can’t apply same reasoning to the evil “west” you keep crying about, but for some reason won’t do us all a favour and move yourself to the BRICS promised land
You tell us that BRICS is a an economic behemoth and the future of the world economy, then why won’t any of them sanction Israel?
The only ones trying to restrain Israel are the decadent western countries you cry about
Yourself and your Russian alliance of shithole states are even bigger load of hypocrites, whom spend decades bombing **** out of countries around the world on the scale that make Israelis look restrained
At least the west sends aid, what has BRICS done to help? Nothing
While standing there flinging whataboutery
The UN Security Council seems to be devolving into blocs among permanent members. Or is it reverting?
I don't know enough history of votes taken, but perhaps it was like that in the Cold war as well i.e. what mattered most was what parties happened to be allied with which power (US vs Soviets) with any higher principles etc. put second.
If the Western perm. members are in support of something now, Russia and China will be against that and (almost) vice versa.
Which is why none of those members who have the power of veto want any shake up to how it operates. A useless talking shop.
The IDF is the most moral army in the world. They take great care to avoid even injuring civilians. They warn civilians to leave buildings before they destroy them. The odd child and journalist is going to get shot. That’s just war unfortunately.
The notion that Israel would bomb hospitals, kill doctors, starve civilians etc is deeply antisemitic, a blood libel and is clearly a hate crime. 😉
I don’t think that’s entirely the case. Russia and China got stung over a security council “no fly zone” in Libya which resulted in a NATO led regime change operation and ongoing civil war. The evidence used to justify intervention, an imminent massacre in Benghazi and the government troops armed with sacks of viagra to commit rape was all shown to be false by the House of Commons investigation.
One huge change has been the rise of social media and the rapid decline of mainstream media. The UK and US were able to get away with helping and arming rogue states and dictators in the past because it was mostly hidden from view and the media weren't exposing it.
The slaughter in Gaza is unfolding on our smartphones every day and compromised outfits like the BBC have totally lost control of the narrative. There's more than a touch of the curtain being pulled back on the wizard in The Wizard of Oz about this. We're starting to see just what the US, UK and German governments and their media pals are really like.
Yup social media...the most credible source of information…
There's way too much noise and deliberate misuse, nonsense etc., posted and used the same way it is being used here, to my liking. Just saying.
We're not talking about 'claims' or 'commentary' on social media here. There are hundreds of actual videos of the slaughter out there (and images of the absolute destruction of Gaza in the last 12 months). These are the things that the UK, US and Germany and their mainstream media pals don't particularly want anyone to see.
Oh so the "mainstream" news channels are more credible with their reporting than actual footage from independent reporting sources. Oh lord.
Well I hope you don't swallow all the twitter links posted here as an independent reporting..
Oh lord?
These are the things that the UK, US and Germany and their mainstream media pals don't particularly want anyone to see.
But you've somehow managed to see it right? And others were able to see whatever they want right? So how mainstream media pals of whatever country you've mentioned are being able to control what people are watching anywhere related to this conflict?
I watch independent journalism. Wouldn't be naive enough to watch and believe mainstream reports
That's fine, would be great to share some of that, with the help of lord..
Will be interesting to see what the UK, France and Germany will do now with regard to the war criminals in Israel. I know Macron had called for an arm sales, doubt Starmer will do much.
Do your own research on independent journalism.
Notice all the "journalistic"hit Jobs on Mr Khan , one of the top individuals from the ICC who issued the warrants , just like with Julian assange a decade ago, he's been accused of sexual impropriety
So predictable
It makes no difference really. No one apart from the Americans have questioned the legal basis for the judgement. And the Americans have admitted they no legal advice to claim the judgement is unsound just that the icc have no jursidiction to prosecute israel. It's embarrassing that certain countries will continue to support the war criminals.
Typical.. Thank you
I've seen this repeatedly, where is this BRICS talking point coming from exactly and what is the purpose of it?
No, Thank you