I think it will be FF/FG again with god knows who. Hopefully a left wing party
It will be November 15th
Do you have any evidence of them being the biggest landlord in the dail?
One would presume they are not renting out their constituency and head offices given they are owned by the party and used by the party?
Do you honestly believe a word that comes out of Sinn Fein mouth?
😂
If it was only 19 why have they spent years and years of hiding them
Ide say most of us could get 4 out of 5 in almost every constituency (or 2 or 3 for the smaller ones)..
Yates is just another McDowell giving an opinion on everything and proclaiming himself a guru when he gets one right.
It's an absolutely terrible idea. Aine Lawlor could barely control 3 of them(not leaders) and she is capable. I'm assuming it's Katie Hannon? So you can be gaurenteed to be a shitshow from pretty much start to finish
He got caught out badly by the late SF surge last time (which had a knock-on affects with all of their surplus transfers that went to the likes of the Greens and PBP)
He hasn't done my own constituency (Limerick City) yet but his 2020 edition was very wrong so I'd take what he says with a pinch of salt for the 2024 edition
10 party leaders will go head-to-head(-to-head-to-head-to-head-to-head-to-head-to-head-to-head-to-head) tonight. Could be interesting but will probably be a mess as well. I think it will benefit the 3 big parties
In case anyone was wondering the lowest turnout for a general election in the history of the state was actually the very first general election under the free state in 1923: 61.3% turnout (the aftermath of the civil war may have had something to do with that). Second place was 2002 with 62.6%. Highest turnout was 1933 with 81.3%.
This century:
A factor in the lower turnouts in recent times is that the voter rolls were a mess. Many people were registered in multiple constituencies due to the de-centralised nature of the voter rolls. The electoral commission are due to create a centralised register. I have no idea if this has actually happened yet. If they have cleaned up the register then that should actually boost turnout.
Why would the richest party in the country stop caring about the value of their property when every action they have taken maintains that value? They are the biggest landlord in the Dáil and able to take advantage of the different loopholes used by REIT.
Again, rationality has gone out the window here, thanks for confirming.
These are the full list of TD with property (2023):
Richard Bruton (FG); Colm Burke (FG); Thomas Byrne (FF); Sean Canney (Ind); Michael Creed (FG); Pa Daly (SF); Stephen Donnelly (FF); Alan Dillon (FG); Frank Feighan (FG); Norma Foley (FF) Noel Grealish (Ind); Johnny Guirke (SF); Seán Haughey (FF); Michael Healy-Rae (Ind); Paul Kehoe (FG); Alan Kelly (Lab); James Lawless (FF); Brian Leddin (Green); Charlie McConalogue (FF); Michael McNamara (Ind); Michael Moynihan (FF); Carol Nolan (Ind); Seán Ó Fearghaíl (FF); John Paul Phelan (FG); Matt Shanahan (Ind); Brendan Smith (FF); Robert Troy (FF) and Leo Varadkar (FG)
NewsTalk got Ivan Yates to revisit the podcast that he did in 2020 where he goes through the constituencies one by one and calls who he thinks will get the seats. He's got about 30 of them done at this stage. You can find them at the link below or in a podcast feed (search for "Calling it")
Based on the level of apathy that surrounds this election, I am going to predict that we are going to see the lowest turnout in the history of the state.
The stink of cordite still whiffs about the place.
Sinn Féin has disclosed the details of its property portfolio for the first time — and it’s less than half the size of the network of properties the party was thought to own.The party says it owns 19 properties on both sides of the island, including 16 constituency offices. The buildings include three head offices in Dublin and Belfast, collectively worth at least €2m, and seven offices owned by local constituency organisations in the Republic.
Sinn Féin has disclosed the details of its property portfolio for the first time — and it’s less than half the size of the network of properties the party was thought to own.
The party says it owns 19 properties on both sides of the island, including 16 constituency offices. The buildings include three head offices in Dublin and Belfast, collectively worth at least €2m, and seven offices owned by local constituency organisations in the Republic.
Is this it? The own their own constituency offices?
Hahahahaha
You'd swear they were evil rent extracting landlords by the way some went on in this thread.
And yet there are actual rent extracting landlords in Dail Eireann, with FF TDs making up the majority who extract wealth from tenants.
Keep dreaming, it ain't going to happen.
I didn't deflect, I pointed out that because 'members' believe something it does not follow that is what will happen and cited the party you vote for as an example. We also seen that doors are opened when certain scenarios arise and no leaders word is his bond as we and the country's main media outlets saw last time out with Micheal Martin.
I am not a member of any party. No party owns me.
I vote Green, but I differ with a number of their policies.
Why did you deflect? There is no party lining up alongside Sinn Fein, the stink is too great.
You do know that there are 'members' of your own party that do not wish to support FF or FG, it was quite the news item before the last government was formed. There are 'members' of FF who don't wish to support FG and vice versa no doubt.
It's not quite the gotcha you think it is therefore.
Its a Friday, by all accounts will be cold and pissing rain…..plenty of the permantly outraged online won't move from their computer to vote 😂
I think you are very wrong.
I sense a general apathy in the air. There was more energy and buzz around the Local and EU Elections. There are **** all posters around compared to last time. No one has called to my door, a marked contrast to the locals.
They say turnout will be down from the last GE.
FF and FG will transfer to each other.
SF vote will be lucky to get where it was in 2020, never mind break it.
The election is a bit dull to be honest. That will suit the status quo.
Lets be honest here, while many may not be thrilled with FF and FG and the Greens, there is no credible opposition. That seems to be my reading of it, and the polls back it up. That is on SF.
SF got the protest vote last time and done nothing with it.
Based on the online activity they are running to try get it again while at the same time saying they will go into government with FF and FG.
So whats the point of a protest voters who just wants FF and FG out voting for SF?
Sinn Fein are seen as part of the problem and part of the establishment now. They were complaining the other day about the other main parties stealing their policies, if that is the case, doesn't that show they are too close to the other main parties?
The idea that there would be a 'massive' protest vote and SF will not benefit would be bizarre, the 'protest' vote will go all over the placeto the racist right in urban and rural areas but SF will inevitably benefit too.
They have also criticised Sinn Fein's immigration policies.
They have correctly critiqued SF's willingness to coalesce with FF & FG but are open to working with SF without the right wing establishment parties.
I agree with you that there will be a massive protest vote, but I don't think Sinn Fein will benefit. Aontu, Independent Ireland and various others will benefit, but not Sinn Fein.
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Don't be bringing hard facts to a love-in with Sinn Fein.
Haven't PBP said that they are not sure about SF's credentials?
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-before-profit-members-want-party-to-end-support-for-a-sinn-fein-led-government-over-racist-immigration-stance/a1250639681.html
I'm no fan of Sinn Fein but I think the idea that they don't want to solve the housing crisis because they want to protect the value of their constituency offices is pretty preposterous now. There's plenty of legitimate reasons to attack Sinn Fein without resorting to illogical conspiracy theories.
That’s party shared property, purpose built for their organsiation. Very different from FG/FF who are composed of individualised landlords who own their own private estates for profit.
Highly unlikely. Verona is an able operator and quite popular. I would say she will easily get back in.
"Sinn fein property portfolio" has numerous hits on this, first result:
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-feins-property-empire-revealed-irelands-richest-party-discloses-the-19-buildings-and-offices-it-owns-nationwide/42425049.html
Now that you know this, do you understand why they're not really interested in fixing housing? They are serial objectors, failed abysmally at the remit in the north and reduced housing output when they were in control of Dublin city Council.
(Always interested in whether providing evidence influences a person's belief or if they remain irrational in the face of that evidence)
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