Got another of these. Silly crinkled barcode labelling. Lidl refused the manual return, Aldi had a special barcode fob for such DRS and gave me my 15c back. Well done Aldi
In relation to airports, Cork airport have installed 4 of them 2 airside and 2 landside. Have the option of using voucher in the bar, cafes and there is an option to donate to charity.
Would be nice to see other airports roll something similar out
That's good news, and because Cork is run by DAA we might see the same at Dublin.
Details of the Cork Airport scheme. The article also mentions that over 700 million total returns have been made.
https://re-turn.ie/cork-airport-becomes-first-transport-hub-in-ireland-to-introduce-reverse-vending-machines-as-part-of-deposit-return-scheme/
Good to see travellers getting a better chance of reclaiming deposits.
However the repeated use of phrases like:
Containers recycled through our DRS
Over 700 million containers have been returned to be recycled through Ireland’s Deposit Return Scheme
Containers recycled through our RVMs
Is pure propaganda until actual recycle figures are published.
How about dropping the constant repeating of the numbers returned propaganda until they tell us how many were actually recycled this year and last?
No.
I thought a poster previously said there were RVM's in Shannon?
I posted my experience at Shannon in mid August.
I went into WH Smith airside and asked the shop assistant "what about the deposit?".
He said I have to charge you the deposit but there is no RVM to give it back and the shop doesn't pay it back either
I declined to purchase but I had my empty metal bottle anyway which I filled up at the hydration station for free.
Thank you for clarifying that.
You're welcome.
I was also in Dublin T2 twice since and didn't see any RVM but quite a few empty cans and bottles left around both sides of security.
Son just tried using RVM at Aldi. Machine crapped out after 8 containers. I went to help him. No error message. RVM in some kind of control panel mode. Managed to get to a "print last receipt" screen. Receipt didn't come out. Went down in behind the outer casing of the RVM so I could see it in the slot but couldn't get it with my hands. Managed to tease it out gently with a door key. Moved to the RVM beside it for the last 4 containers.
RVMs both finished with a message: "Thank you for recycling" just to annoy me even more. What a f*cking carry on.
That's really weird jj880, just had a very similar experience.
Got my disabled relatives stuff (because remember, Return couldn't give a sh*t about those people) and went to the machine at a petrol station.
Had to queue at the till to get them to open the portacabin where it is. Then waited five minutes for the assistant to come out. Put four items in and the machine kacked itself and gave no reciept. Back in and queue in the shop and another five minutes before he came out again as the shop was busy. Lad resets the machine and asked how many cans it ate. I told him four, and he printed four individual 15c tokens as he said thats the only way it can be done.
Machine appears to be working, so in go twelve more items and exact same thing happened again. Queue, five minutes wait, twelve individual tickets again. He asked if i wanted him to wait til i finished, as he said all the shop staff know the machine is utterly crap. Before i put another item in, it went out of service again, so i just gave up. In the meantime, the queue in the shop was getting longer and longer due to half the till staff being at a faulty rvm.
The lad from the shop said all the staff hate the scheme as it does nothing but cause problems and p*ss people off.
Convenient for all indeed i thought as i put half the items back in my car after cashing in the stack of unrecyclable paper receipts. Also fascinating that five of the receipts wouldn't scan at the till, but they gave me the money anyway, which i presume is a lost cost to them.
I have used the machines over 50 times without incident. I must be unlucky to have such luck every time and I have nothing to complain about. Hopefully next time.
Its been said a few times it depends on the shop / RVM type. Some are rubbish.
What shop would you do most of your shopping in?
I detest this scheme and my son is fast getting fed up with Re-Turn's brand of "recycling" containers. Maybe if we found a machine that doesn't shyite the bed he might stick at it and keep getting our deposits back to spend.
Did you spoke to anyone in the Shop (Aldi) about the problem? What was their reply?
Yeah while I was messing about with the control panel to get it to print a voucher my son went in to tell the Aldi staff. I came into the shop once Id got the vouchers and we did some shopping but it was about 10 minutes before someone got out to sort the RVM as it was busy. So if I hadn't got to the "print last receipt" screen and then got the stuck voucher out of the slot with a key Id have been waiting there until someone came out. Id say shop staff are demented. Im like a broken record but there is no reason IBAN refunds through QR codes / mobile app can't be an option. It would take a lot of annoyance / pressure away from customers / shop staff.
My workplace has recently put a bin in our canteen for bottles/cans. We don't use many bottles/cans though primarily because we have access to filtered water so nearly everyone has refillable water bottles. The only scenario I can think of in which we use a lot of bottles/cans would be the odd time that VIPs are on-site.
Refillable water bottles are the way to go.
Better for your pocket and the environment.
Does someone on staff take the contents of the bin to an RVM ?
It's a bit like the "man bites dog" yarn.
We are unlikely to see many posts like yours reporting successful RVM trips.
The bin hasn't been there long, so it has only been brought to an RVM once, and even then there were only about 20 bottles/cans in it. The person who emptied it just put the bottles/cans in their car for when they were going with their own domestic bottles/cans. And so they kept the money, which I think is fair enough!
Mostly between Dunnes and Lidl, but I have also used Tesco's machines a couple of times.
Fair enough if they make the effort.
I've noticed the Tesco machines that back on to storerooms have an intake belt of about 1.5 metres, they can handle 3 cans going through on the belt at the same time, least amount of errors when scanning them.
Machine out of service again.
That's about 7 or 8 times the thing has been useless since this bullshit began.
Just a fucking waste of people's time.
I have used it most weeks since the start, and apart from once, when a machine broke down, the only recurring problem has bee idiots in front of me in the queue who don't know how to use the machine, it isn't rocket science.
I used the RVM most weeks and find that suits me.
Keeping the numbers down and not letting them build up reduces stress.
Usually at least one machine is working but a couple of times both were out of commission.
It is interesting that a sort of "water cooler" chat culture has evolved and I had a few interesting encounters.
The strangest thing I've seen was an elderly man who went up to the RVM and ignoring the belt slot put all his Carlsberg cans into the reject bin one by one.
When he went away I fished one out and it was a cross border 440ml.
I guess he has no bins at home and just found an easy way to get rid of the empties.
The old dog for the hard road 😊
There's no way these figures make any sense in the real world.
It was possible this time last year to purchase many small bottles of soft drinks for sub 2 euro - not possible at the moment. There's at least a 10 percent increase in items like lucozade zero and I'd argue Coke regular/diet/zero so I don't see how the figure of 1.1% can be correct.
This discussion took place on the thread before. Someone on the thread dismissed the CPI methodology as propaganda. Would you at least give it the benefit of reading it?
https://www.cso.ie/en/methods/prices/consumerpriceindex/methodologydocuments/csoconsumerpriceindexmethodology/
It was probably me that dismissed it as not being based on the real world or my own lived experience.
I think it didn't take account of multipack discrepencies which was at least one issue.
Either way, I know myself the items I monitor myself have all gone up circa 10-15 percent in the past 12 months and the multipacks have reduced in size.
