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Election to be called Fri - predict outcome

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I’m no expert but McEntee is an amateur when compared to JO’C.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,861 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Based on what? She was a junior minister from 2016 to 2020 and has been a senior minister since.

    Jim O'Callaghan has no ministerial experience, he had a huff when offered a junior ministerial role and refused to take it, and his asperations towards the leadership of FF have gone exactly nowhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I sincerely hope You are wrong here. The thought of Wallace & Daly mouthing off in DÉ doesn’t bear thinking of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Being from Newbridge, I was very interested in this debate.

    I was laughing to myself when the interviewee asked the shinner about numbers in housing & she replied ( Im paraphrasing) ‘look I’m not Eoin O’Broin’. This was advertised all afternoon on RTÊ that transport & housing would be the topics. Surely she would have done her homework on housing before going on the programme?

    Another thing that came up that pissed me off was the 2nd bridge over the Liffey and the ring road to alleviate the traffic congestion. This has been a contentious topic here for years. Here in Newbridge there are hundreds of houses being built or nearing completion yet not one metre of road upgrade.

    But not a word on this. Another thing I thought might be touched on is the ex shinner standing as an independent- what were her holiday plans for the end of November?

    As for MH? Less said about the spoofer the better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I really really hope Your prediction is wrong. He certainly won’t be getting my vote.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    I don't disagree with that. I do think Labour would be happy to implement a Trump style of immigration system just to get their hands on a Ministers gig and pension. but the reality is II are more aligned with FG views on nearly all issues than Labour are. So I don't understand why FG would pick Labour instead. Also, I don't think Labour will deliver enough seats on their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭jd


    I remember this from an article earlier this year

    "The antipathy is clearly reciprocated in government. Referring to the possibility of the Soc-Dems in Government, one “Fianna Fáil insider” recently told the Irish Times’ Jack Horgan-Jones:“If you thought the Greens were a pain in the hole, you ain’t seen nothing yet”. There may be less appeal for the Soc-Dems’ particularly woke brand of politics among the two main government parties in the wake of the recent referendums"



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,809 ✭✭✭hometruths


    If FG do turn out to be clear winners and are looking to form a government with FF and another, it sort of makes sense they'd go for right leaning indos.

    If this is the outcome of the election, a likely clear message will be the electorate has moved to the right on immigration. Simon Harris has shown signs of recognising the way the wind is blowing.

    To ignore that completely in forming a coalition would a strategic and political misjudgement

    That's not to say jumping into bed with a motley crew of indo right wing extremists is the wise choice, but to team with the Soc Dems who are more open borders than Roderic O'Gorman, would definitely be somewhat tone deaf.

    With all that in mind it would seem that Independent Ireland would be a likely contender.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Immigration. The planning process etc, serious taxation of vacant and derelict property in cities and towns , amongst a whole host of other things , non of which they have any intention of tackling...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Well to be honest theres been vacant and derelict buildings a long time since i was a kid and thats a long ago. It aint just about sitting on vacant sites to make a fortune.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,055 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's definitely a problem. In Limerick city we have sites vacant for years on some of the busiest streets and every property around them that goes derelict gets turned fast.

    We also have an independent running in Limerick who set up a fake environmental group that is actually just a way for her personal and numerous objections to sound like they are coming from experts. She is currently blocking student accommodation on a site that has been rotting for 20 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,190 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Latest opinion poll

    https://x.com/Ireland_Votes/status/1857920725274792100

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    all moves within MOE…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭scrabtom


    @ldbatterim

    As much as the planning process is a huge problem, it shouldn't be an issue for the government parties as they've just pushed through a huge planning bill.

    It will take a few years for that to shake out and figure out whether it works or not.

    It would be pretty dumb to push through new planning reforms before you knew whether the huge sweeping reforms you had just pushed through worked or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,861 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    MOE is 3% here.

    I was going to look at comparable poll from 2020, but I just noticed that Sunday Times no longer have b&a doing their polls, and b&a are now part of ipsos. So not sure if you can compare polls from 2020 now...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    You can never compare polls that is what got Selzar caught in Iowa. Her system put too much faith in older people voting and younger people not. To earr is humans to totally **** up it take a computer

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    So much for FF and FG pitching themselves as the parties to fix the housing crisis

    This news and more to come will certainly turn heads coming up to the election. An election next year would have shown housing situation even worse as Q4 numbers will be lower than expected too, so another reason for the early election

    https://www.businesspost.ie/news/we-cant-build-top-developer-takes-aim-at-government-inaction-over-housing-crisis/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭pureza


    The FG slide continues.

    SF will be in coalition with FF yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,861 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The FG slide. It's within MOE.

    And for FF + SF to make sense it would suggest FG votes go to FF (some might, lots won't) or SF (won't happen). So I don't see the logic of how it happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I hear you… But Irish government and huge reform do not go hand in hand…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,990 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    They have avoided all reform since FG's New Politics document in 2011. The pretended to abolish and then reform the Seanad and then stopped. All talk no action. They put forward bills to reform local government waste and corruption (e.g. "show me the money" planning) and the public office (e.g. more power for SIPO) and then shelved those bills. It is all a lie lads. Voting FFG condones the pretence. They will laugh at those who do.

    Zero talk of reform from FFG in this election.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    They are currently telling everyone, we will fix this, that, throwing money around like confetti… The budget was only announced and now they have loads of extra ideas on how they want to recklessly hike spending to secure power. Once they have that, we will be back to only endless talk and no action…. Insufferable, can we vote to be taken over by the german government? while maintaining sovereignty?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    Hopefully pragmatism wins out but both FG and FF are currently served by left leaning progressive leaders so I could see them listening to the media instead of the people and seeking to form a coalition with the Soc Dems instead of independents



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,861 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Going in with independents is a crap shoot when it comes to knowing if they'll stay cohesive (they're independents for a reason).

    Also you can make an argument that a party with a vote of 4-5% say has a better claim to being in Government versus a bunch of random independents who ran on various platforms in a subset of constituencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    No law says making up the numbers with independents is less legit than a party



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,990 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Jim asked straight out if he agreed with Willie O'Dea (FF) whether Helen was the worst justice minister ever. He wouldn't answer. Just waffled about not wanting to do personal politics. He wouldn't criticise Willie either.

    Helen is incapable of answer simple Yes/No questions.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,034 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The site next to the Carlton on O'Connell St has been vacant for fifty years. FIFTY years, in the main street of our capital city. How can that be allowed to happen?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭pureza


    what did you expect him to say though?
    Realisticly like

    He is on record as saying he’s not a fan of SF,so knows the only game in town for him is FF plus FG?

    So far it’s been (as usual) with the exception of Willy o’Dea FG who can’t keep the civil war DNA at bay

    FF have been quite good at not flaming,which is a strategy FG could well take up,as they seem to have forgotten at times that it’s a joint product they’re trying to sell?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Gosh watching Chambers v Naughtin last Monday night, one would think there’s a civil war in the offing.
    I pity Katie Hannon tomorrow night trying to control 10 leaders



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,190 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    are the ten listed anywhere?

    Presumably had to be ff, fg, sf, greens, labour, sic dems, pbp (if they have such a bourgeois role), aontu, independent Ireland…

    Is there another party with a presence in the dail?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I’m not sure but Áine Lawlor referenced it earlier today on TWIP



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