Every car for sale today has that lane assist, even diesels believe it or not.
Over the years jumping in someone else's car there was always a different feel to the clutch, gearstick and brakes to get used to but it never took long really.
Literally nothing in your post is anything to do with EV? You just drove a new car and didn't like it being different to yours in any way.
You can turn the lane keep off(or whatever your car brand calls it). Afaik it now is a requirement for the 5 star rating in the NCAP.
Even the Sportage we had in 2016 had a version of it, but it was "opt in" at that stage rather than opt out now. If you change your car for a new one, it's gonna have it.
As for brakes, every car has a different feeling. Going from car, to amorak, to Polaris ranger, they all have different brake feel.
So you've driven 1 model of EV from 1 brand and you're now able to comment on all models of EV?
Or have I misunderstood something?
Also, the lane assist you describe is not particular to EVs. It's common on modern cars.
EV are not easier to drive despite the common perception that they are.
I have a diesel car as long daily commute, my husband has an EV.
My car was in getting serviced so had to drive EV for the day.
I thought it would be great having an automatic car on long commute but it was a nighmare in traffic. The brakes are crap, I barely tip mine and car stops but in EV really had to brake, so I was sweating the whole time stop starting in traffic thinking I would crash into car in front, my husband car is new so nothing wrong with brakes just different in EV.
Now I will admit the automatic was nice on country roads as didn't have go up and down the gears, however that was until the car nearly caused me to crash twice!
On country roads you have to avoid potholes so you come away from side of road( obviously when safe to do so) but stupid car swerved me back into the bloody pothole!
Then there is a big wide road I drive on that's very busy and always loads of cyclists and cars overtake all time rather than wait. So with me on opposite side you have to keep more over in your lane to be safe, the f**king car swerved me this time back into middle of lane nearly into oncoming car.
Now supposedly you can turn that feature off but I swear to god I nearly got down on my hands and knees and kissed my diesel car when I got it back.
Myself and my husband have agreed to disagree, he loves his EV and I love my diesel😂
Or the Greens could win a majority in 2 weeks and immediately ban ICE car sales
The problem with what if games is that the possibilities are endless
Thats where cost to change comes into play,
Then you can see how much per year it is costing you, just have the car for a year, sitting in the drive.
Agreed, but the loss is only crystalised when you sell, up until then the loss is theoretical. Markets change, who knows what next year will bring.
True, but your car is always decreasing in value, whether you sell or not.
You can of course keep your car for 10+ years if you want, but if it craps itself with a major issue, then you are stuck to either fork out a huge sum to repair it or go get another car.
Indeed, I also sold a hybrid lexus in 23. It was a year and a half old when I bought it in 2017. 6k loss in 6 years, pure madness.
The 21-23 years car prices went nuts. People were selling cars for more than they bought them for. All cars. Not just EVs.
High priced cars drop the most and it's all in the first few years too.
Likewise, this view of cars as an asset is BS. If I can't pay for my groceries with it then it's of limited financial utility
When I've eventually saved enough to buy a new car for cash then I'll complain about depreciation
If you don't like losing then don't gamble
It's the only way to look at it, there's no loss unless you sell. I'm an optimist😁
Well, that is one way to look at it :D
Was it 8.5 to change? You did well if so
You did well. What did you trade it for?
Only if they have since sold them. I bought in 23, and I haven't lost a penny.
I lost 8.5k on a 22 rav PHEV traded for 24 one. Was happy with that, and better than any Bev did.
True, but the last 2 years has been particularly nasty for EV owners who bought nice new EV's. Lost a fortune on them. Good for the consumer though.
Yeah exactly there was very little depreciation from 2019 to 2022/23 and appreciation in some cases, now the market is correcting
I've 2 x 2022 reg EVs that have dropped a good bit, the one I bought new was 42k and the cheapest asking price for a 22 is now 26k, so that's 16k or about 40% in just over 2 years. I was offered 24k by the same dealer so that's 18k or 45% cost to me. Not a million miles from ballpark I have always used of 50% in 3 years. Maybe slightly over but not much.
However, the same car is now 37k new so if someone buys one today and gets the same 24k offer after 2 years that's around 33% which should come in under 50% in 3 years.
I don't think I would have fared much better on a new PHEV at 40k in 2022.
I think that the covid lockdown and other supply related problems leading to restricted supply of new cars led some people to buy into the industry promoted view that EVs were the new blue chip investment with stories of negative depreciation abounding including on here.
People paid way over the odds for new cars and were biting the hands of people to buy used cars at prices often exceeding the price of the car when new. Unfortunately the long run depreciation norm has returned and has bit these 'investors' hard leading to an unwarranted backlash against EVs. Inevitably this backlash will also recede in time.
Nearly every single new car loses a fortune in depreciation. Has been that way since forever
Is this an ex employee or ex dealer? He had a load of 330e and xc40, of course he'll tell you they're good value.
Both nice cars and I actually think a decent range PHEV is a good choice for people but as a stop gap.
After having a PHEV 530e and now having 2 full EVs, I'm not going back.
PHEV is the best and worst of both worlds at the same time.
Forgot to mention was also talking to a BYD dealer. Mentioned that prices will go up in the new year because of the Tarrifs. Told him about the new BYD factory in Hungary, but he countered that that wont be online till later on in 2025.
He said that BYD will absorb some of the 17%? cost of the tariffs but not all of it.
Not sure if he was trying to secure a deal for a Jan 151 car.
Was talking to a ex BMW dealer the other day. He was deadset against EV's not from a car point of view, but from a cost point of view. He said, they had a load of BMW i's that they cant seem to shift because they are too expensive. He knew a lot of people that bought high end EV's who lost huge amount of value on their cars over the past 18 months. People seem to have turned away from them.
The crowd he works for now, wont take an EV as trade as well. He was saying one is much better off going for a PHEV. He had a lot of nice 2nd hand BMW 330e that looked lovely in fairness. He had a fair few Volvo XC40 plugins as well. He was saying that they will hold their value much better over the long term.
But was it an electric truck? It's gonna be some mess when one of them plugs in 🫣
The model X I was after sold yesterday unfortunately. It was an X90D for sub 30k, a real bargain for someone out there.
The nice fast chargers at Inver, Slieverue this morning. Lucky I wasn’t after a charge.
Absolutely true, that's why I mainly think it's Maxol shaking the begging bowl for more grant money
I do understand the viewpoint that lower than expected EV sales would reduce demand on chargers, but it isn't like Maxol is installing hubs in marginal locations anyway
EV sales dropping doesn't mean less EVs. It's just growing at a slightly slower rate. 2024 still on track to be the second best year ever for EV sales in Ireland
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