unfortunately, newpapers will knowingly print lies
I've had athletic, prolonged and enthusiastic sex, and I have never once been bruised.
The paramedic said that she was bruised all over her body. That she had extremely bad bruising and marks on her neck as well.
On another site they linked an article from a newspaper think it was 2019 implying she'd been offered 1 million, I'll see can I find it, don't know if its true of course.
Sorry I didn't realise that was an attempt at a joke.
Definitely don't give up the day job if you think that was funny.
The world needs ditch diggers too you know.
was she actually offered a pay off?
you don't have to prove anything though, people often make that mistake
you just have to convince the jury its the most likely case
who is lying basically
the key here is surely the bruising, be hard for the defense to explain these away
yep. It really is a different type of “assault-injury” to a person.
If she is a victim of rape, I can't say that she has been badly advised to not take a big pay offer,.or that she is a moron for not taking the offer. Why? Because - if she is a victim - I think money is unlikely to be her motivation. Road traffic accident? Take the money. Got punched on a night out? Take the money. Unfair dismissal? Take the money.
But where someone is a high profile figure has raped you, has had form for this sort of behaviour in the past, is offering you money to keep quiet and where you believe he will continue to behave in this way, then having your day in court is highly motivating. Especially where you may have been suffering from low mental health since the incident and might be looking for some sort of resolution, some sort of outlet for your anger.
Gardai are trained to take statements from rape victims. They can in fact take days to do properly. There is nothing odd about a long detailed statement, particularly if taken by a competent member.
I have to agree. Solicitors and barristers will advise taking a lower offer than what they'd expect to get in court for safety. You don't know you'll win and you don't know what the judge will decide it's worth.
It had to be really low for them to recommend rejecting it.
There is only one thing that seems way off there and that's the length of the statement. Normally it's hard to get much from a rape victim.
Just to make it clear I'm not saying it didn't happen. Tbh I'd be more inclined to believe it did happen but proving it to a jury is very difficult unfortunately.
To put it another way, going through this court case is bad for both parties. Really bad for him, and much worse for her. So one of them messed up by letting is get this far. Either her through turning down a big offer or him though offering a low ball amount.
I don’t know anything about her. I do know some things about him, including how he’s stiffed people in the past who he owed money to. While he can seem very generous to his entourage, he’s instinctively a tight person in my opinion. Therefore, and this is only my opinion, it’s more likely he offered a low amount hoping she’d easily clear off and refused to increase it to a proper offer. Pure and utter discussion board speculation!
Why lol?
‘if she got a massive offer (say 250k or more) and turned it down in favour of putting herself through this public torture, and significant risk of getting nothing and going bankrupt, then she is an absolute moron. And a badly advised moron. I think it’s highly unlikely that she is a badly advised moron, therefore, my opinion is that I doubt she got a massive offer.
You genuinely think she didn’t get a massive offer? Lol
in fairness , they probably have an open relationship? It’s not as shocking these days as it used to be. Not sure what age you are…
I read any DNA profile for Lawrence in relation to sexual intimacy with Ms. Hand was excluded. There was none detected
Did you have your humourectomy in the public system or did you go private? It was clearly a resounding success.
You know they could well of had an open relationship from the start of his rise to fame. I wouldn't waste too much energy worrying about what she thinks. As seen from that video from Warren point this week she is still very romantic with him.
Did I hear today no semen from Lawrence was found? Is it possible a condom would prevent that being detected?
“Mr Gordon puts it to him that that’s not true and that he came out with the bag of cocaine in his hand. Mr McGregor says the cocaine was already present.
Mr McGregor confirms both girls were given cocaine. He confirms he also had cocaine as well.”
I wonder will there be any American travel attempted post that statement?
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/live-updates-conor-mcgregor-takes-30369179
I didn't think he'd be so open about it either. I'd say it's one thing knowing that this was happening in private, and another when it's plastered all over the papers. How do you explain it to your kids when they're older? And it's not even papered over with a PR-style "I made a mistake and Dee has decided to stick with me and work on things" pretend-regret. He's grand about it. Maybe Dee is too but jaysus, the looks and the judgement she'll be getting for sticking with him after this. She's not his wife, so her options are limited, but good god I'm not sure I'd be able to put up with that for long.
The judge has some discretion but it tends to follow the same formula. The loser pays the costs, so she’ll most likely have to pay Remy’s massive costs if she loses. Her own costs are probably no foal no fee.
There have been cases in the past where the plaintiff won but the compensation awarded was lower than what had been offered by the accused, and so all costs were awarded against the plaintiff resulting in the ‘winnings’ being wiped out. Courts value major injury at about 500k. Jury could give any amount if she wins, especially knowing what he’s worth, but if that happened I’d expect it to be reduced back to close to the norm on appeal.
I don’t know what offer McGregor made pre trial. But I’d be sceptical re the social media story that she turned down a massive offer because she wanted her day in court and to highlight exactly what he did. Although it’s also hard to understand how McGregor didn’t offer a 6 figure sum to make it go away (Even if he thought he was innocent of the charge, he’s guilty of cheating on his partner and sourcing coke. I know we all knew that anyway, but it’s gone from being deniable gossip to being on the official court record for eternity for all his kids, grandkids etc to view).
Qoute Mcgregor "He said he booked hotels as a "place of rest" and sometimes for after parties and sex could take place, "if he was lucky enough"
😆 wonder how long Dee will take to post a happy family photo 😆 planing a wedding together.
He openly admitting in court, he does this all the time 😆
We all knew he did but didn't think he be so open about it in court
Bruising takes about 18 hours to show up.
I bruise like a peach. I once fell through the floor of Flannerys while drunk (there was a hole in the floor, I didn't actually break it) and had pretty spectacular bruising all down my right side.
Swan diving into a bath giving you bruising on your legs, torso, arms, chest and neck though? Don't buy it.
Some people bruise like a peach. I remember back in college days some of the wilder women would be black and blue the next day. When people are out of their mind on drink or drugs they don't feel the pain of a few bangs. And I'm not talking about sex here. Just acting the bollox at house parties.
On the making it up for profit point:
I'm sorry but that's just so far fetched that not even an oscar winning psychopath would be willing to do. For what, a slightly nicer house and back pay for her hairdressing job? This is where Occam's Razor comes in, "when faced with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest is likely the correct one".
I think so.. McGregor in his evidence mentioned her jumping into a bath and thud, and also that their sexual encounter being athletic, enthusiastic and prolonged. This comes across as a reason to maybe explain injuries/bruising, without specifically doing so. btw, I am not medical expert. But can bruising take time to surface/appear? May explain how Danielle saw no real injuries/marks.
Almost sure that bruising can take time to actually show.
Didn't her friend witness her bruises and take pictures of them before she went to the BF?
That she is fighting about this all these years later, does show consistency in what she's saying.
ff
Although a legitimate question , you’d have to think both them despicable to conjure up something like this, and years later this woman still fighting for justice. Very very unlikely this the reason for her injuries.