I think it will be FF/FG again with god knows who. Hopefully a left wing party
It will be November 15th
Housing targets are being missed.
The CSO has reported 21,634 new homes being delivered this year to the end of September compared with 22,356 in the first nine months of last year.
The Government had set an initial target of 33,450 for this year and the Minister insisted “we will deliver in the high 30,000s or early 40,000s this year”.
The Minister said the revised targets are “being worked through right now” in conjunction with the revised national planning framework. “I can’t give you a definitive deadline on that, but it’s important we set our targets and the three parties do,”
Government to miss housing targets ‘by a country mile’, Sinn Féin claims in testy Dáil row – The Irish Times
That was 3 weeks ago. The goalposts keep moving, they keep missing.
Re the Affordable Homes promise that you dismissed because it was only FF that said it (50k in 4 years). Lets take 2023.
Government missed last year's social and affordable housing targets by 2,680 homes
The affordable housing delivery statistics were published by Housing Minister Darragh O’Brien today and show that while the State did deliver more homes last year, compared to the year before, it failed to meet the target it set for itself.
Table 3: Sinn Féin’s Public Housing Targets 2025 to 2029
2025
2026
2027
2028
2029
Total
21,500
23,000
24,750
26,750
29,000
125,000
Social
13,500
14,000
14,750
15,750
17,000
75,000
Affordable Purchase
4,000
4,500
5,000
5,500
6,000
25,000
Affordable Rental
The seem more interested in keeping people in social housing, than making them affordable. And they want to wind down the help to buy scheme!!
Wrong again.
The offical targets were reached in 2022 and 2023 and will likely still be reached this year, as the remaining completions close out in Q4.
We will know in January if they have been reached. And even if they do miss, it will be very marginal and the output will increase into 2025.
I dont see any circumstances in which FFG dont outbuild SF over the next 5 years.
The HTB scheme is making them unaffordable. How many agencies of the state do you want to tell you that before the penny drops?
It was a "air metric" too when Fianna Fail were boasting it just before bankrupting the country so I don't think they want anyone reminding people of comments attributed to Bertie for the next few weeks.
What was built in 2022 and 2023 was nowhere near enough to make a dent on the housing crisis. FFG stopped building for years and that caused the housing crisis! They need to own their culpability.-
You will notice all the revised targets that FFG are putting out now to hoodwink the electorate. 50,000-60,000 per year is pie in the sky if they cannot even keep pace on last year's actual builds.
The Housing for All Plan had an average of 33,000 a year until 2030. Housing demand was way above that and now they are playing catch up - in promises only!
Thatcher arose and appeared to many!
It is experience, she has none.
Her naive support for Russia, Maduro and Hamas demonstrates that inexperience.
An "affordable home" is counted as delivered when an FTB is approved for the First Home Scheme.
Every applicant who has been approved for a mortgage is approved for the scheme.
The news reports rarely mention this though.
But again neither does/did Enda Kenny, Sanna Marin, Kaja Kallas or Jacinda Ahern?
So if she supported Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Israel that would be OK would it, because they're backed by US imperialism?
Let's look at the options...
Emer Higgins- Lightweight across the board and a bit of a gaffe waiting to happen. Strictly backbench material.
Eoin O'Broin- Nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is. A Shinner.
Mark Ward-Also a Shinner. Unfortunately suffering from a debilitating disease.
Gino Kenny- Enough said.
Eoin O'Broin SD- What Seán Lemass would have described as "One of the nicest, most useless people you could meet".
Paul Gogarty- Even more unlikable than O' Broinn SF.
FF still hated locally.
Then you're left with a few no-hopers and extreme nutters.
Not much across the board for a centre ground voter.
Criticising the leader of the opposition for having no experience in government is quite the take.
Yeah no sh1t. They're trying to get into government by doing well in an election so that they can gain that experience. That's how politics works.
Targets were the targets and they were met. End of story.
The targets are now going up to 50k or 60k as you say, lets see if they continue to hit them. There is plenty of additional resource being diverted to residential construction now, so they are achievable.
I'd have much more faith in FFG continuing to deliver increased housing output than I would with SF, who want to drive out the investment funds that make the majority of private developments viable in the first place!
SF would likely oversee a reduction in new home builds in the term up to 2030.
If housing construction is a voters concern, FFG are the best option for delivery of new stock.
When the link between construction and cranes/building sites is broken, you'd have a point.
Until then, the increased visibity of cranes, building sites and builders all over the city is a very good indicator that construction is in progress and is growing.
Social and affordable home targets have not been met
Govt guaranteeing 30,000plus this year will not be met by a long way
Keeping on saying we reached the target dosnt wash anymore. You seen the absolute state of Darragh and Paschal on RTE Monday evening, neither could stand over the Govts record on housing
50% increase in homelessness in 4 and a half years is a remarkable achievement
It's not your theory I am talking about. It's specifically the Bertie quote.
All the work going on is great it's just best from a PR point of view not to mention "counting cranes". Might remind the hundreds of thousands of my generation that Bertie put on the planes and boats.
Well, Simon Harris, Micheal Martin and Roderic O'Gorman have experience of Ministerial positions and diplomacy, MLMD clearly doesn't, and that is the choice we have.
Where did I say that supporting Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Israel would be ok? I only pointed to her support of Hamas, Russia and Maduro, which are not supported by FF or FG, because they are not so stupid to get involved with that.
Well we can never vote in anyone new then. Unless all small parties are just splits from the government ones.
Not true. Check your facts before you post.
12k social homes delivered last year against a govt target of 9k.
5.7k afforadable and cost rental against a govt target of 5.5k.
All 3 targets were met and the social housing target was exceeded by a massive 33%!
Homelessness increased, largely because of rapid population growth.
The way to reduce homelessness is to build more homes, which is exactly what the govt are doing.
The Irish Govt have done nothing to stop Russian money going through the IFSC which is well known
Leo supported Saudi Arabia for years
Take a look at No record of Varadkar raising human rights concerns with Saudi officials during visit | Business Post! |
https://www.businesspost.ie/politics/no-record-of-varadkar-raising-human-rights-concerns-with-saudi-officials-during-visit/
Your hatred of MLMD means nobody can have a reasonable argument with you.
What your saying is no party can trusted to be in Govt unless their leader has previous experience as a Minister (i.e FF and FG will always have the main job)
I am not asking them to put out a message.
I am saying take a look around you and see the building. The evidence is there for all to see.
It is a combination of her track record of dangerous collaborations with her inexperience that makes for a deadly combo.
I wouldn't have the same concerns about Labour or the Social Democrats who haven't tied themselves to Hamas or Russia.
Now there's a disaster waiting to happen!
SF in charge of housing. SF that want to drive out private investors from housing delivery, but will rely on private homes being built in order to hit the majority of their housing targets...
You couldnt make it up!
According to the figures less than 1500 affordable homes were delivered last year.
Holly Cairns pointed this out in the Dail last week and Micheal Martin didn't disagree with her
Stop bullshitting and making up figures
It was less than 1000 affordable homes since 2020. BlueSky is picking figures from the sky. Just like the minister does. You will notice no links are provided.
Martin wouldn't even acknowledge Holly's question.
On the debate earlier, McConalogue admitted that Donegal got 0 last year.
There's some amount of incredible promises being made on the canvas trail this year. Even more than usual.
That's because FF and FG have nothing to point at in health, housing, immigration, climate and justice they have improved over the last 4/5 years
All they have left is false promises
All we know for sure now is that FFG policies on housing are not working, the situation is getting worse.
Whatever the solution is, it is not more of the same.
SF are the only party offering a meaningfully different approach to the problem.
Since we can only vote for what's on offer, as far as I'm concerned SF policies are the best of a bad bunch.
A Marxist money grab?
Sorry love, but 70% of people in Ireland own their own home, under a traditional mortgage. Its an asset and its part of people's plans for security and pension income etc, later in the lives.
Sinn Féin want to intervene in the market and artificially set a price which would cause current homeowners huge damage, and kill private investment and financing at the same time.
It is meaningfully different, and they will get hammered for it.
