I think it will be FF/FG again with god knows who. Hopefully a left wing party
It will be November 15th
Targets were the targets and they were met. End of story.
The targets are now going up to 50k or 60k as you say, lets see if they continue to hit them. There is plenty of additional resource being diverted to residential construction now, so they are achievable.
I'd have much more faith in FFG continuing to deliver increased housing output than I would with SF, who want to drive out the investment funds that make the majority of private developments viable in the first place!
SF would likely oversee a reduction in new home builds in the term up to 2030.
If housing construction is a voters concern, FFG are the best option for delivery of new stock.
Criticising the leader of the opposition for having no experience in government is quite the take.
Yeah no sh1t. They're trying to get into government by doing well in an election so that they can gain that experience. That's how politics works.
Let's look at the options...
Emer Higgins- Lightweight across the board and a bit of a gaffe waiting to happen. Strictly backbench material.
Eoin O'Broin- Nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is. A Shinner.
Mark Ward-Also a Shinner. Unfortunately suffering from a debilitating disease.
Gino Kenny- Enough said.
Eoin O'Broin SD- What Seán Lemass would have described as "One of the nicest, most useless people you could meet".
Paul Gogarty- Even more unlikable than O' Broinn SF.
FF still hated locally.
Then you're left with a few no-hopers and extreme nutters.
Not much across the board for a centre ground voter.
But again neither does/did Enda Kenny, Sanna Marin, Kaja Kallas or Jacinda Ahern?
So if she supported Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Israel that would be OK would it, because they're backed by US imperialism?
An "affordable home" is counted as delivered when an FTB is approved for the First Home Scheme.
Every applicant who has been approved for a mortgage is approved for the scheme.
The news reports rarely mention this though.
It is experience, she has none.
Her naive support for Russia, Maduro and Hamas demonstrates that inexperience.
Thatcher arose and appeared to many!
What was built in 2022 and 2023 was nowhere near enough to make a dent on the housing crisis. FFG stopped building for years and that caused the housing crisis! They need to own their culpability.-
You will notice all the revised targets that FFG are putting out now to hoodwink the electorate. 50,000-60,000 per year is pie in the sky if they cannot even keep pace on last year's actual builds.
The Housing for All Plan had an average of 33,000 a year until 2030. Housing demand was way above that and now they are playing catch up - in promises only!
It was a "air metric" too when Fianna Fail were boasting it just before bankrupting the country so I don't think they want anyone reminding people of comments attributed to Bertie for the next few weeks.
The HTB scheme is making them unaffordable. How many agencies of the state do you want to tell you that before the penny drops?
Wrong again.
The offical targets were reached in 2022 and 2023 and will likely still be reached this year, as the remaining completions close out in Q4.
We will know in January if they have been reached. And even if they do miss, it will be very marginal and the output will increase into 2025.
I dont see any circumstances in which FFG dont outbuild SF over the next 5 years.
Table 3: Sinn Féin’s Public Housing Targets 2025 to 2029
2025
2026
2027
2028
2029
Total
21,500
23,000
24,750
26,750
29,000
125,000
Social
13,500
14,000
14,750
15,750
17,000
75,000
Affordable Purchase
4,000
4,500
5,000
5,500
6,000
25,000
Affordable Rental
The seem more interested in keeping people in social housing, than making them affordable. And they want to wind down the help to buy scheme!!
Re the Affordable Homes promise that you dismissed because it was only FF that said it (50k in 4 years). Lets take 2023.
Government missed last year's social and affordable housing targets by 2,680 homes
The affordable housing delivery statistics were published by Housing Minister Darragh O’Brien today and show that while the State did deliver more homes last year, compared to the year before, it failed to meet the target it set for itself.
Housing targets are being missed.
The CSO has reported 21,634 new homes being delivered this year to the end of September compared with 22,356 in the first nine months of last year.
The Government had set an initial target of 33,450 for this year and the Minister insisted “we will deliver in the high 30,000s or early 40,000s this year”.
The Minister said the revised targets are “being worked through right now” in conjunction with the revised national planning framework. “I can’t give you a definitive deadline on that, but it’s important we set our targets and the three parties do,”
Government to miss housing targets ‘by a country mile’, Sinn Féin claims in testy Dáil row – The Irish Times
That was 3 weeks ago. The goalposts keep moving, they keep missing.
Doesnt impact how many homes FFG build and Troy doesnt need to be anywhere near housing in a new govt.
One politician does not a government party make.
Robert Troy is relevant. He was a minister of state. He abused his position.
Fianna Fáil Junior Minister Robert Troy used Dáil speaking time to call for more funding for a State rental scheme which he currently receives an income from.
Mr Troy also used parliamentary questions to seek specific information about the Rental Accommodation Scheme (RAS) under which he has leased two properties to Westmeath County Council.
Landlord minister Robert Troy pushed Dáil to hike funds for state rents scheme | Irish Independent
And yet…Fianna Fail selected him again. That says it all about FF.
free houses.
This is rubbish. Old rubbish too and if you pretend to yourself that it is true that is on you. They also want those who earn more to pay slightly higher taxes. They do not propose higher taxes for all.
Agreed. And once you reach even an average salary, SF arent helping you, whereas FFG are.
I've no loyalty to any party, but the issue I have with SF is they don't want people bettering themselves.
They are all for higher taxes and free houses. God forbid people in disadvantage areas want to better themselves earn a good wage and buy a house of their own, or get some help to buy a house.
So it's not really about 'experience', you've been exposed on that one, really it's that you want someone who will bend the knee to US imperialism and not take issue with their foreign policy, no matter their crimes.
Its a fair metric to indicate construction output, regardless of who wants or doesnt want to see it.
The fact is, homes are being built and targets are being met and then expanded.
I think thats what matters.
More homes are needed, more homes are being delivered.
FF arent in govt, FFG are. FFG ARE hitting their targets.
Troy isnt relevant becuase he isnt the housing minister.
Indeed, they are all significantly to the right of MLMD and more pro-US/NATO. However, the poster was using the issue of 'experience' to undermine her, and on the issue of 'experience', she is as experienced as they were at the time of their election to Prime Minister/Taoiseach.
I don't think "counting the cranes in Dublin" is a phrase Fianna Fail want doing the rounds.
4,000 homeless kids.
FG & FF are a disgrace.
Non of those women you list are anything like McDonald. Or Enda Kenny for that matter.
I don't think her meeting world leaders will be a problem though. Sinn Fein leaders have shown that they are well aware that diplomacy is a very different tone to campaigns and parliament.
FF promised 50,000 affordable homes in 2020 over the lifetime of the government. They delivered less than 1000. This has been pointed out to you before.
No response on the actual post about Robert Troy running again for FF? Great spokesman for tenants etc.
He has been a Minister, a Taoiseach, he has represented Ireland abroad, we have seen that he is capable of that. None of that is there with MLMD.
We can look to her leadership of Sinn Fein, and the various scandals that have engulfed it, we can look at her authorising attendance at the Maduro inauguration, the SF support of Russia, the links with Hamas etc., and we can conclude that she doesn't have the necessary to represent Ireland abroad.
FFG have hit their housing targets in recent years. No reason to think they wont continue to do that & as more construction resource moves from commercial to residential, the new targets moving past 50k to 60k by the end of the decade are in reach.
The workforce is growing and so is the output. Cranes everywhere in Dublin now.
