It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Israel (away from playing the victim) continues to attack UNIFIL positions in Lebanon
Do you have the full transcript of the entire police statement and not some Twitter account spreading misinformation?
The Mayor of Amsterdam and the Police have confirmed these reports.
Or are they also part of this deep-statet Mossad plot?
The Mayor of Amsterdam has confirmed that messages were floating about in Telegram that targeted 'Jews'.
Telegram has shut the groups down and is cooperating with the Dutch police.
Reports are also coming out that Uber drivers were coordinating these attacks.
Uber are also going to cooperate with the police.
The evidence is there and overwhelming. But you will dismiss it regardless, wont you.
Not having sympathy for people who play the victim when they indulged in disgusting thuggery and racism constitutes condoning violence, racism, and antisemitism? Really? You are fully aware that I already stated that I did NOT condone those things in a previous post, and in the post that you only partially quoted, strangely enough!
Nice try, though!
Now, would you care to answer the question is asked. I'll ask it again, since it seems to have been mysteriously edited out of the post you quoted:
"Violence is not acceptable. Racism is not acceptable. Collective punishment is not acceptable.
Can you agree with the definition of what I find unacceptable at least?"
Just to be clear, are you stating that a news report is "evidence"?
Funny how "news reports" of genocide in Gaza is debunked as "fake news" but when "news reports" are in defence of Israel, all of a sudden its gospel…
Ireland hasn't been genociding anyone either today, or in the 13 months prior. Why do you continue the pretence that the fans of a genocidal football team that goes to another city, celebrates the genocide, and gets the proper response from normal human beings is in anyway equivalent to normal human beings going to another city to support their football team?
If you're getting paid by the word or the hour, I get it - you're just following orders. But otherwise, its not just laughable to pretend this was a pogrom, it actually invites people to wonder if the accounts about the other pogroms were some equivalent to "israeli football fans" showing up at a town, **** around and finding out in an era without camera phones. It seems self defeating to double down so much on a case where it's so obvious the israeli club fans thought they had a forcefield.
It's a fact that the western media is going against public opinion on Israel. The regime is hated by a majority of people in the West over its behaviour in Gaza (confirmed by numerous opinion polls) but you would never guess this from western media coverage - something very peculiar going on there.
I find it predictably depressing that over 300 posts have been given over to the football match - many of those expressing utter outrage at Israeli fans treatment by Dutch football hooligans.
No-one died, no-one is in ICU, no-one is homeless, no-one is starving to death, nobody lost limbs (I think someone lost a tooth). 10 Israelis were wounded.
Meanwhile in Gaza, 27 people died in a refugee camp and 30 people were pulled out of the rubble in Lebanon.
And the hostages remain in captivity. Israel is spending a lot more time raging about a football match than rescuing its own people. Why is that?
I'd wager that next time an IDF spokesman is question on RTE radio 1, and they are tackled about the Genocide and starving Palestinians, their response will be something like
"How can you ask a question like that after the atrocities perpetrated in Amsterdam? Do you condemn the Dutch football fans for their abhoorent actions against Jewish people?".
They'll also probably bring up Éamon de Valera again.
Banging on about the MSM, and Zionists aka The Jews is a very old Anti-Semitic trope. This is a fact.
Possibly just typical retaliatory football violence stirred up by Maccabi fans (singing about dead children and disrespecting a minute's silence for the Spanish dead).
Nope, not according to the evidence that has been reported and available by the independent media.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/08/israel-sends-rescue-planes-football-fans-reportedly-attacked-amsterdam
Away from Israel playing the victim, almost 70% of the dead in Gaza are women and children. Israel actively targeting them and destroying the civilian infrastructure does that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo
The Amsterdam Police have said the Maccabi fans started the trouble
They'd never claim that it was antisemitic without providing details of their in-depth investigation, would they now?
Oh look, evidence..
It's an appeal to authority - this isn't a permissible argument, any more than any other argument made without evidence it can be rejected without evidence.
Except there IS evidence.
The Dutch authorities, the police, the mayor and media outlets like the BBC and Guardian have reported on this issue and its Anti-Semitic intent. Given that there IS evidence, people are simply ignoring the facts.
One is allowed an opinion, but you are not allowed to have your own facts.
These authorities of yours, they are absolute wonders. Down the road in The Hague, you have people who have been agonising more than six months and studying lots and lots of evidence, but they still are in a quandery as to whether the Yahoo and his pet poodle (ex-pet poodle) should be arrested - but up the road in A'dam we have the Dutch PM, the Dutch king, the Mayor of Amsterdam and her pet policeman (not to mention Van the Lyin') - they all know that this was antisemitism without carrying out any investigation at all.
without carrying out any investigation at all
What is this nonsense? You disagree with the judicial outcomes in the Hauge, so that means the entire Dutch judicial and police system is on the take or corrupt?
You blather on about fallacies, maybe take a long hard look in the mirror.
Simply put, there is no amount of evidence me, or the Dutch police can produce to change your mind on this.
Jewish influence in the media is an anti-Semitic trope that has been around for years.
Do you condemn Israel's Genocide?
What Irish Girl that was killed was actively in the IDF?
If you are talking about Kim Damti, then you best really think about your words..
The police disagree that this is just another random attack.
It was organised, planned and deliberate.
The poster will not acknowledge what the Dutch authorities have acknowledged about these attacks.
To him, it's just a bit of fans fighting each other at a football match.
But the authorities have stated clearly and unequivocally that these attacks were motivated by Anti-Semitism.
I live in the real world and not in a fake news bubble surrounded by misinformation and tinfoil hats.
The Amsterdam Police seem to be saying Maccabi fans started it.
https://x.com/Khan971I/status/1854953692208021917?t=V463o6k8ccaCXkQ16RcoSg&s=19
In other news, Netanyahu has appointed Yechiel Leiter to be Israel's next ambassador to the U.S.
What a lovely bloke.
Before immigrating to Israel, Leiter, was a member of Meir Kahane's Jewish Defense League.
The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is a radical organization that preaches a violent form of anti-Arab, Jewish nationalism. The FBI deemed the league a right-wing terrorist group in their report "Terrorism 2000/2001.
The Dutch authorities have stated as such. Do you disagree, and if so, why?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2y33ee1klo
If they could give the Israelis the bum's rush out of UEFA (like Russia, say?) wouldn't that solve all this aggro?
(No football fan me though, so take this with a pinch of salt).
They won't be Ireland have played in Wembley twice in last few years (was at both) and was absolutely no trouble at all, all pubs around the Wembley area had both fans mixing before and after both games
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Iran is going to have a hard 4 years.
Hopefully it will be a year of transformation with democratic reforms for the people and the end of the theocracy.
Right…
Remember that if Irish fans get set upon in London next week. No doubt you will be playing a different tune.
I just pointed out that it is in fact entirely possible not every dutch fan who attacked a Maccabi fan was anti-Semitic.
So no, not victim blaming at all.
That has already been mentioned.
The facts of that incident was that an Egyptian man threw a bottle at the fans and got beaten up for his efforts.
I did not condone the beating up.
You see, you will not catch me out on that. I do not want to see anyone beaten up and I will not make excuses for it.
Will you condemn outright Anti-Semitic behaviour?
