yes, I get this. But when you factor in alcohol, drink, Garda interviews, sexual assault examinations, how the victim was when interviewed, this evidence presented by the defence becomes less meaningful..a point I made earlier.
Ultimately, I don't know.
It will be interesting to see what the verdict is here.
It evidence of her actions post the incident
Now we haven't seen it, but given it's description it certainly doesn't help her case
surely you can understand that
It's not a red Herring in the slightest
The argument will be are these the actions of someone who had been raped, I think by both of them?
This is a fair argument
I didn’t say it wasn’t evidence. I said it was the type evidence to distract from the alleged crime. Red herring type evidence. Not all evidence is the same…has same impact, clarity, strength
Of course it's evidence.
Dont be silly
The should really move this in camera
who? Freaks who believe her or disbelieve her?
the freaks have entered the building
It’s not evidence of any substance to disprove her allegation. It’s the job of defence to discredit, introduce, suggest, sully, twist, muddy..so red herring type “evidence” introduced to distract from the actual alleged crime.
It's not a red herring at all
Just a piece of evidence
Given his history, I'd say he has an uphill battle on his hands
$200 is most definitely not "a completely made up number".
If you said $two-baziliadonnies then I'd agree that that was a completely made up number.
That said, I'd say what McG will be getting from that hypothetical fight would be closer to your $200 than $200m
exactly. She also made a point that she was in a state whereby she should have been brought home. Any decent man would have recognized this and done the decent thing…
She admits that she was drugged up , and on the tape was shown to be very drunk and out of it which is another 'reason' why she was unable to resist / run off
Yes, I know this. But when you factor in other fairly convincing evidence (medical, Garda interviews, gynaecologist exam), the kind of red herrings thrown in become less meaningful
Well, Exactly. Many victims go through years of abuse before disclosing the abuse. Many rape victims don't disclose at all. It's a very difficult offence to prosecute criminally. You would have to give her credit for sticking to her principles and trying to make a point.
It also doesn't mean it happened
Your actions before and after are going to colour the juries opinion of you and what happened , obviously
Did he deffo try to pay her off?
I think far too much focus is on details that don’t actually disprove her allegation. She lied to boyfriend, seen maybe being affectionate to Lawrence etc etc.. of course the defence will latch onto this to try portray her as unreliable, willing etc.. it doesn’t at all mean that what happened to her when with McGregor didn’t happen.
A rape victim does NOT have to run away screaming in terror for it to be deemed her raped. It doesn’t always happen like this. Lot of emotions, responses, confusions can happen. Similar to why she didn’t she say stop, fight, scream for help.. it’s not that easy; it’s not that black and white
I agree here. He played the 'buy you off' card and she passed it up. While not something for the jury to consider, a gold digger would have taken the cash.
As another poster said he is a fool, a 'Proper Fool'. Win or loose this type of publicity is not good for his insta cred.
A lot of rape cases are he said she said, but this case has other evidence presented. Physical evidence, although not a guarantee that a rape occurred, can be damning, and add in other evidence such as what has been presented here, and it can be easier to come to a conclusion.
I’d consider myself fairly logical and balanced, and reading the defence’s stance vs her story and her evidence, I really think she is telling the truth about her being assaulted/raped.
So?
The incels have entered the building.
One persons word against another is tough.
Is it true there is footage from the hotel of them all leaving together, and her kissing the other fella that supposedly had sex with her aswell on the way down in the lift?
relax, Conor
Lying through her teeth. A tampon being up in the vagina lost is not evidence of rape. The DPP didnt take this case for good reason. Lying left right and centre, cheating on her boyfriend then telling him to **** off when he started to discover the truth.
Its clear as day Farrell is setting her up for a big loss next week with her admissions. Other witnesses will tell the real truth. All this I forget, I dont remember, thats not me. Complete BS.
Individuals like this need to be prosecuted for false rape accusations.
How is he managing all this coke and all this raping at the same time?
His ego alone will probably make that happen, he will think that he can talk his way around it
if people don’t believe her then it’s a case of A: I don’t believe her AND this means she’s an extremely nasty piece of work, or B: they don’t believe her BUT think that maybe she believes it happened, but has simply got it wrong..
I find it very difficult to think scenario A, after reading up, knowing how long this has been going on etc. Her version and story and the whole situation comes across very credible, even if the defence will do what they can to rip her version to pieces
Not sure what your saying. Tbh
l think the reason it originally didn't go to court was she texted her boyfriend the next day and said shes ok and had a good night , l probably have the details of the exact text wrong but that was the jest of the text .
having read the details from the court so far l'd be very surprised if she's lying .
If that actually comes to pass than Remy Farrell is a fool who also has a fool for a client.
