It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
The 10,000 killed and wounded figure? Any link to prove that or was it just for effect? Another unprovable theory of yours perhaps.
Gods work, eh? Where does israels claim to the land come from again?? They’re someone’s “chosen people” aren’t they??
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
I think your definition of "existential threat" might differ from most accepted definitions.
And if you think that Hamas ever had the capability of mounting a campaign lasting more than a few days and threating (let alone killing) a fraction of the number of people you think they could threaten or kill, perhaps you should read up on the capabilities of the IDF. Including nuclear weapons.
And for accuracy, your numbers for October 7th are a bit off.
Haaretz: "Israel declared war after Hamas killed at least 1,200 Israelis and wounded more than 3,300 on October 7"
Israel is not attemting to exterminate Palestinians.
Extermination means to kill all of a group. You are, again, invoking the language of the Holocaust. It's totally wrong to suggest that. There will not be 2 million dead Palestinians at the end of this conflict. The killing is almost over in Gaza.
I agree, the hostages are useful for Beni when he wants, or not, whatever the case may be.
On Hezbollah:
It was easy for Israel to open a second front because they always had the military capability to do it anyway, and the war in Gaza has effectively been over for a long time.
They opened that second front because, as you pointed out, Hezbollah has been raining missles down on Northern Israel for almost a year. NO soverign country can allow that to continue indefinitely. No country!
The Hezbollah/Israel missle count is a red herring. Israel has a more powerful military. Hezbollah fires a missile at Israel, they fire 20 back, nothing unusual, unwarranted, or illegal there. Unless you think there should be someone on the border counting the missles and handing out chits, that's the way it's always going to be.
You might be better off perusing, why in the name of f**k is an Iranian backed terrorist organisation allowed to run a state within a state in southern Lebanon, with no other purpose than to attack Israel.
In conclusion, in combination, these forces do represent an existential threat to Israel. You saw what happened on 7 Oct when they got a bit comfortable with the status quo.
That's an army of individuals, some brave, some not, i suppose.
The ICJ deadline has passed. It's up to the court now.
Firstly, I am not "invoking" anything. That's your assumption.
Am I right in assuming that provided there is one single Palestinian alive when this is over, you'll be OK with that? Its not an "extermination"? (I dispute your definition of extermination by the way).
And if you think the killing in Gaza is almost over, guess again. Estimates of a over a month ago put the overall dead at nearly 190,000. That has undoubtedly climber higher now the starvation plan has gained traction.
As for your stuff about Hezbollah, I think you may have totally snookered yourself on you "existential threat" point.
It's been widely reported.
i guess you're gonna be dissapointed that it's true.
France 24 good enough for you?
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20241007-hamas-terrorist-attacks-7-october-deadliest-day-israel-history-anniversary
Do you think, having just held a "look at we are about to inherit" party last week just outside Gaza that possibly the reason they continue to bomb Gaza could just be seen as "preparation"?
If you thought that currently Hamas have any say in anything remotely threatening to Israel, you must have missed a fair chunk of the news over the last few months.
One thing I do agree with is that Netanyahu does need a victory - to keep himself out of court for corruption. But there again, you seem to snookered yourself with the ""Bibi will win because Hamas have no hope of victory" and yet you demand they surrender…
What's to dispute?
You don't get to make up definations.
Extermination: killing, especially of a whole group of people or animals.
There is no figure putting the dead at 190,000. There was an article with a made up and eventually retracted number. Please provide a link.
The dead toll won't rise significantly in Gaza.
Don't see how i snookered myself at all regarding Hezbollah.
7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel - Wikipedia
1,180 killed, 3,400 civilians and soldiers wounded. 251 civilians and soldiers taken captive.
Israeli death toll from Hamas attack surpasses 1,000, top military officer says
The Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C., said earlier Tuesday that more than 3,400 people were wounded in the attacks.
https://x.com/IsraelinUSA/status/1711648136211394895?s=20
Nowhere near 10,000 but France24…childlike. Where else was it widely reported?
None of that justifies Hezbollah, in either action, or reason for existance.
The figures are form France 24.
Does it seem less horrific to you is the number is 3500?
The deadline for the submittal of written evidence passed on Monday. However, SA will be able to raise other evidence during the trial.
200 idiots is emblematic of nothing. 20 year old students don't dictate Israel foreigh policy, no matter how demented they are.
No snooker. They have no hope of victory. They won't surrender. Bibi will win.
Why don't you call for them to surrender?
First time round you said extermination was killing everyone.
Now its "killing, especially a whole group".
That to me says "Extermination is killing, but it is especially, but not exclusively, the killing of a whole group"
Would you like another go? Just like with your numbers for October 7th.
Aljazerra too.
France 24 are a reputable news source. Or do you know something I don't.
If it's 3500 I have no problem with that.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker
Does it seem less horrific to you if the death toll in Gaza is “only” 40,000, rather than 190,000 ?
And as far as extermination goes, don’t forget, they ain’t finished yet.
Ah will you stop reaching. I gave you a link from the Israeli embassy in Washington 1 day after your Al Jazeera tracker which gave an updated figure of 3,400.
Embassy of Israel to the USA on X: "🚨 OPERATIONAL UPDATE: https://t.co/iSvMTd7yTf" / X
Maybe provide an Israeli source after October 10th to prove your newest theory?
Do you think that perhaps the Minister of National Security being present blows a rather large hole in your argument?
I've stated here often that Hamas needs to be neutralised. I have no opinion on whether they should die or surrender. And according to you, it doesn't matter.
I've tried to debate honestly with you but I think you're just digging a rather large hole for yourself by providing (and I'm being very generous here) dubious facts.
You questioned extermination, so I provided you with a defination.
What's the difference between killing everyone, and a whole group, with regard to Gaza?
All you've done is reply with your own made up defination.
Not making anything up.
The numbers are from Aljazerra and France 24.
If they're wrong, I'll hold my hand up, but surely, they're are reputable as Wikipedia.
Surprised you believed an Israeli news source to be honest.
I normally try to avoid them because, as you know, the Jews lie about everything, and nobody would believe it.
Anyway, I provided a link in good faith. If France 24 have their numbers wrong, so be it.
Still waitng for the 190,000 dead link.
What dubious fact?
I provided the top two searches for numbers on OCT 7th. If there is a discrepancy, that's hardly my fault.
Meanwhile, your link to 190k dead is where?
Actually no, you provided two definitions. I disputed the first (killing everyone).
You then gave a second definition, which started as "killing, especially…"
The word "especially" really does make all the difference.
So I offered you the opportunity for yet another go.
And for the record, so its crystal clear, I actually never gave a definition at all.
Seriously, stop digging. You've made some good points but unfortunately rather spoiled them.
It's not an Israeli news source. It's the Israeli embassy in Washington. On October 10th.
And don't use the phrase "to be honest", it's too easy.
I have never said Israeli news sources or diplomats lie about anything. Please find any posts where I have even doubted Israeli news sources. I have used their newspapers for links several times. Another debunked theory? Oh dear…bad day.
Credibility…zero.
I posted it a while back and it was debated.
You can scroll back if you like.
You said that Palestinains were being exterminated in Palestine. They're not.
You have again invoked the language of the Holocaust, and are trying to wriggle out of it with this obscure arguement about definations.
You: Palestians are being exterminated.
Defination:killing, especially of a whole group of people or animals.
You are simply lying here, and trying to wriggle out by making some point about definations.
Palestians are not being exterminated. Full stop. It's simply dishonest to suggest this. Only a person with a very particular agenda suggest this.
The have total control over Northern Gaza for many many months now. Yet they are continuing to bomb it…just for fun. It's beyond terrorism. If there was a legitimate military target in one of the few buildings standing, send in the tanks and sort it out. But no, brave IDF will keep bombing and killing innocent starving men, women and children. For kicks. Yellow fcuking cowards.
Only muslims. Not humans.
How long is a while?
I suspect you posted a link to the debunked letter theory and would rather not rehash it.
Or, you could just provide it. You have no problem posting links when it suits, and you, after all, know where it is.
