What about Hibs?
I doubt that too many Celtic supporters voted to stay in the Union.
Let's not forget they do work for the Irish Times!
It’s pretty gormless to call a Scottish club made up of largely Scottish nationalist supporters British when you’re Irish of all nationalities.
Scotland is part of Great Britain and Celtic is a British club. They voted to stay part of the Union recently.
”Miguel Delaney and Jonathan Wilson join us for an experimental slot we are calling Trying to Stay Positive..”
Picked the wrong guests so, lads It’s pretty gormless to call a Scottish club made up of largely Scottish nationalist supporters British when you’re Irish of all nationalities.
Eoin’s audio book comment after that clip from Paddy Joe Burke was fantastic, he’d been sitting on that one for a while I’d imagine
Reminds me of the Stewart Lee joke about the “gentleman bombers” of the IRA: “They didn’t think they were British, but they were.”
Definitely the most Irish leaning British club anyway.
Apart from it being founded by an Irishman.
They have a weirdly distanced position on probably the most Irish club on the planet outside of Ireland.
There's nothing Irish about a Scottish club.
that’s true actually!
Well the lads attempted dismissal of Celtic in Italy tonight didn't exactly go to plan. They have a weirdly distanced position on probably the most Irish club on the planet outside of Ireland.
How the sport is played at the top level does not need to be solved by rules changes. It can be solved by tactical changes.
Plus, these rule changes are astonishing to me because, to anyone that has played the game, it should be obvious what the consequences are, especially with the changes to the scoring zone and 4 point goal changes.
Edit: dont want to derail this thread any further, apologies
Lol what
As someone for whom gaelic football is number one with a bullet there is an absolute sickness in how the sport is played at the top level that needs to be solved by rules changes. This is not something that is new and has developed over such a long time that it’s very obvious this is the only way of jarring the sport out of the nuclear winter of massed 15 men behind the ball trench warfare. And by the way, attendances have been fading on a per match basis for long before the new format or even the Super 8s were a thing. The sport has been on a downwards spiral for decades at this point.
Affecting changes in style through the rules is something that has been done many times successfully in other sports and even football itself so where you got the idea it’s a doomed prospect from the outset is unfathomable.
They definitely were ha.
The hot key they played at the very end of Branno talking about yoga or something at Dalymount was perfect. Pretty sure you could hear a few of the others laughing away in the background
I'd say Branno is the type of lad that would still have Che Guevara posters up on his bedroom wall.
He was a pundit!? Was he not a biased fan?
The comments and response were a bit embarrassing for someone who enjoys invoking history and politics. It's puzzling that none of the rest of them seemed to aware of Markievicz either.
Oh no, is this a new saying like ceiling or risk tariff that's gonna drive me mad?
I think that not changing the rules needed to be very much considered as an option. Basing it on attendances is silly. The attendances last year arent a reliable barometer anyways - the championship structure is stupid with there needing to be 500 games to remove 8 teams. The complete lack of jeopardy affected attendances as much as style of play.
Black cards, sin bins relate to punishment for breaking the rules and dont strictly relate to the flow of the gameplay. The backpass rule in soccer was a good introduction (restricting the movement of goalkeepers is the only new rule i like) and offside was introduced as a rule in 1863 so as good as there since organised football began.
Changing the rules on how scores are counted and/or where certain scores can be scored from is a huge change to the rules and will completely change the game. Possibly not for the better. 4 points for a goal will simply lead to teams being even more protective of their goal - see the Armagh player's words on this over the weekend (was it Grimley - not sure). Add the two point zone to this and you create a no man's land on each side of the pitch inside the 21 yard line where the new job corner forward's have will be to get the ball to the outer scoring zone as soon as possible.
Tactics evolve. I am not saying the current state of GAA is exciting in the main. But there is a way to beat the blanket and that is to kick over it and early. If your blanket is being bypassed before it can form, teams will soon adjust and press higher or more man to man. And there ends the slow build up for a new exciting thing with a new set of coaches following suit. Catenaccio came and dominated soccer for 10 years and then Rinus Michels and the total football Dutch came along. GAA would have changed the rules in that period to ban teams using sweepers. Its not the answer. My opinion of course.
Not changing the rules wasn't an option. The attendance at matches for years proves that.
Lots of sports go through changes to improve them, backpass, offside, black cards, sin bins etc
Paul Flynn's biggest objection to the new rules is that he cant get his head around even / odd numbers.
I wonder was it ever considered by the brains trust committee that not changing the rules at all was an option? Or that changing the rules of a sport to instigate a change in tactics is a doomed idea from the outset?
Branno is fine in small doses but he has a tendency to get on his soapbox and preach a little too much. Smug, self-righteous, sanctimonious ...there's a common theme with people's opinion of him.
Don't mind hearing from him now and again, and he can be entertaining. But hoping he isn't becoming a regular - although that appears to be happening already. Also, I think the dynamic of 3 is far better than 4, on a regular basis anyways.
Agree re: Miguel. Every time Eoin gives a "Miguel Delaney is coming up" announcement I lose some enthusiasm for the show.
I mean he fairly effectively dismantled the points Ken was making in the pre-interview segment about the style of football without even hearing them.
Just having Wilson, Fanning and Miguel the Prophet of Wrong crying about the soul of football for 40 minutes would get very old if that’s all they did with the football guests.
A football pundit who doesn't like football chants is certainly a new one..
Honestly, I don't understand why they bring on fans for the football slots. Always the worst slots on the football show imo.
Yeah sounded like an episode of "The Anfield Wrap" at times
Always love the football pods but could not get into it yesterday. Those guests were terrible. Particularly the Liverpool guy. I'm sure he'll be lauding Liverpool's amazing atmosphere and songs on a different week.
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