It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Oh wow. I didn't realise you were on the ground in Gaza performing interviews amongst Gazans in refugee camps about this.
Fair play.
I wasn't aware about the killing of his sister. I have not seen such posts, but they are indeed distasteful and misguided. We would see the same misguided sentiment expressed If Bibi was killed , unfortunately. War criminals, regardless of what side they are on, should not be feted
When small children were brought into Gaza, several without their mothers, and nobody was willing to help have them freed, even by an anonymous phone call, and the older children when released told of having been beaten by ordinary Gazans when they arrived, I don't think the real problem is desperation, it's brainwashing into blind hatred.
Have you seen or read anything from Mosab Hasan Yousef, the son of a Hamas commander who defected to Israel, describing how they are taught to hate Jews and to long for "martyrdom"?*
And yes I know the reply will be "But the Israelis" and I know there's some truth to that - but it's a whole other level. Shani Louk's dead body was paraded around Gaza for ordinary Gazans to spit on. She wasn't a soldier, she was a German tourist who was at a music festival FFS. Meanwhile, the corpse of Sinwar, who is no doubt the most hated man in Gaza (for Israelis) because of his actions, was treated perfectly normally. It's a small thing, but typical. There's a personal hatred there that is not about personal suffering - it's deliberately taught to the children, including in the UNRWA schools.
That's why it's relevant when a teacher is found to have been one of those who crossed into Israel on Oct 7th - because for every one who did so and was caught, there will be many others who didn't actually do it, or else wasn't caught, but supported it, and will have been teaching that to their pupils.
That's also why peace activists on the Israeli side were sometimes betrayed by so-called peace activists they had been cooperating with in Gaza, who gave their phone numbers and even information about their homes etc to Hamas to use during the attack. Same with workers from Gaza who had been employed in the kibbutzim - notes were found like "he has a dog that barks but won't bite". The level of hatred among ordinary Gazans, pre Oct 7th, is comparable only with the most extreme right wing Israeli settlers - but they weren't attacked on Oct 7th. Which doesn't send a very peaceful message to Israelis.
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It's probably been pointed out before, but Sinwar was known as the Butcher of Khan Yunis, not for killing Israelis, but for killing Gazans.
It's really odd that the people saying that aggression from Israel will only create a new generation of haters never seem to apply the same logic to violence from Hamas against Palestinians.
Almost as though that's not the cause of the hatred at all, and they know that. They're just excusing it.
Hamas have some supporters no doubt , that was never in doubt, but how many who might object to them would will be wiling to speak out for fear of retribution. The hatred doesn't exist in a vacuum either, if you dehumanise and brutalise people through occupation some are ripe for being radicalised. It's not right, but its just the reality of the situation .
We also see hatred expressed towards all Palestinians by many Likud supporters and those who back settlers in the West Bank. We have seen many videos from Israeli Soliders and civilians mocking Palestinians and generally reveling in their suffering . There were Israelis holding parties celebrating the carnage in Gaza . Most disturbingly quite a few Israelis think the military response in Gaza is too soft. There is plenty of hate to go around unfortunately.
Ps. I have heard of this guy. I can agree with a lot of what he says, but I disagree with him when he says there are no Palestinians and no occupation.
Jesus Christ.
Very difficult scenes. An Israeli drone targeted a child with live ammunition on a street in northern Gaza, and when citizens gathered to rescue and help him, they were directly bombed.
How can the defenders of the IDF twist the narrative of something like this to blame the victims? Was the child in Hamas? Were the good Samaritans who came to help them secret jihadis.
Somebody in the IDF. Some twisted sadist watched that scene via a drone and made the decision to not only fire a rocket at that injured child but they did so after waiting for people to come to his aid.
Pure Evil.
From what I have read he was essentially forced to go above ground, as the tunnel network in that area had been sealed by the IDF. He was hiding with some Hamas terrorists, who decided to give away their position by firing upon the IDF. The IDF used a tank to clear the area the shooting was coming from. This resulted in him being wounded badly, he managed to crawl onto a chair, by this point rhe drone was flown in to see what the situation was in the rooms.
With his last ounce of strength he feebly threw a piece of wood at the drone.he had a gun in his hand.
He died if his wounds, and was found by the IDF. From the photo we have seen his body hasn't been desecrated, nor has his body been paraded as a grisly trophy.
I saw this earlier and was going to post it but decided not to because I couldn't stomach the potential 'but HAMAS' excuses that would probably get posted, assuming the usual suspects even bother to chime in which they tend not to in these cases. It's hard to defend the indefensible.
War brings out the worst in some people... seeing how detached the drone operator was from the area, it just further fuels that cruelty.
As modern technology advances, war becomes more horrific for the innocent civilians caught up in all this.
My experience is that posting anything like this (or rampant settlers on the attack in the West Bank) that is truly indefensible just gets ignored by the posters whose narrative these sorts of truths do not fit.
Also let us not forget these are the most moral army in the world. The child and the bystanders obviously had it coming to them, like the nuns that were sniped and those sheep.
Yeah they'll just ignore it, or at best there'll be a 'look over there' post.
Well, but Israel is not going to disappear, or not voluntarily anyway, so that's not a useful starting point, unless they can defeat Israel militarily, which I don't think anyone believes.Basically you can't change other people, you can only change yourself, and it's something similar for Gaza.
Well, but Israel is not going to disappear, or not voluntarily anyway, so that's not a useful starting point, unless they can defeat Israel militarily, which I don't think anyone believes.
Basically you can't change other people, you can only change yourself, and it's something similar for Gaza.
Where the hell did I say that Israel has to "disappear"? If you want to have an honest conversation about this stop putting words in other people's mouths.
The Israeli government supported Hamas because Hamas initially presented itself as a peaceful organisation
This is completely untrue. Hamas NEVER presented itself as a "peaceful organisation", that won't wash. As far back as 2006, both Fatah and the Palestinian Authority lamented the dissolution of the Qureia government and the rise of the more hardline Hamas organisation. Israel deliberately facilitated that rise in order to marginalise the abilities of Fatah and the PA to achieve a two state solution. George Bush said at the time that it wouldn't be able to deal with Hamas. Ehud Olmert, who was acting PM in Israel at the time said Israel couldn't accept Hamas in its present form.
That didn't stop Netanyahu and his headbangers supporting them and sending them money however.
Obviously in hindsight that was a stupid mistake for Israel to make
There was nothing "hindsight" or a "mistake" about it. It was a deliberate and concerted effort to minimise the efforts of the PA to achieve two state solution, regardless of the consequences. Netanyahu KNEW what Hamas was and he damn well knew the kitchen fire he was throwing oil onto. There's no innocence involved here.
Id say that house is fairly reinforced alright
Shamir's advisers warned him not to assist Yassin and his movement but he ignored them and we know why that was.
As you point out it wasn't a mistake it has been a deliberate policy of Likud going back to the 80s and continued by Bibi. Incidentally Shamir and Bibi hated each other but what united them was their steadfast desire to thwart a two state solution, if that meant propping up Islamists so be it.
I would say it's comical (but there's nothing funny about ethnic cleansing) that the usual lot haven't bothered engaging with your post over an hour later, but when evidence of actual crimes against humanity is just ignored it really demonstrates their position on how they view Arab lives.
Very edgy. What do you want to gain from this display of a total lack of humanity, in a pathetic attempt at trolling, on a dying message board?
Where are you getting this stuff from? The hostages shot in September were with him? Throw up a link or two there to back that up
There won't be any evidence, this poster finds crimes against humanity amusing so why would they bother.
Vile
No. Not edgy but FFS come on.
That's exactly what you look like, an edgelord claiming fakery because the scumbags you cheerlead have yet again been caught on video executing children and civilians.
It would be for your racist language. I dont think you should be banned, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Do you have any idea what you are trying to say or is it just words for the sake of it?
Their half narratives. With blinkers and blindfolds at the ready. Only muslims you see.
No wonder Israel don't want the international press in there.
There is a much better case to accuse Russia of genocide for its totally unprovoked war in Ukraine than Israel for its response to the 7th of October attacks. And cause to condemn Iran as a key weapons supplier to both Russia and Hamas/Hezbollah.
Please, elaborate.
On the last bit: I’d say he knows more about it than you or I. And it’s true that until relatively recently (basically Yasser Arafat) the view among Palestinian Arabs was that they wanted “reunification” with Syria- not an independent state. The concept of Palestinian citizenship is new.
(That doesn’t make it invalid IMO, just TBC. But it shows where that thinking comes from and it’s not without some foundation.)
the difference is israel will likely get the land from the river to the sea and beyond whereas the palestinians could not achieve a palestine from the river to the sea.
the reality is it would have been better for everyone if palestine was from the river to the sea and israel exist in america or europe.
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