It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
looks like israel are prioritising removing hezbollah and hamas terrorists like sinbad and co. etc. instead
US elections are only days away so they may have done a deal with biden to hold off till then
Perhaps the Israelis thought it was more important to prove he was dead to their own population. The people talking about how heroic his death was are all enemies of Israel, that hasn't changed, video or no video.
In that case showing him dead in the rubble was enough to serve that end. Showing the video of him being defiant to the end was an own goal if they were trying to make him look weak and for it to be a deterrent others. If it was purely for their own audience it was a mistake too. A video of him dying while surrounded by hostages would have made sense to release as it suits the narrative that he was a coward hiding behind human shields. Releasing the video was a bad idea.
I don't think so. Bibi to date has shown no concern for Biden's domestic considerations. It could be that the attacks they are planning need time before they can be carried out. Also if a prized asset has been compromised they may have had to recalibrate.
A political figure that becomes an icon in death can wield more power in death than when they were alive. We don't have to look too far in this country to see that
I'm just thinking of Bin Laden. I remember they buried him at sea so there would be no grave for people to visit. The first thing that happened was rumours spread that he wasn't dead. Maybe they thought a simple picture of a corpse wouldn't cut it. You can be sure this was approved at the highest level.
They could have waited for Hamas to deny he was dead before releasing a photo or goad them into trying to prove he was alive.
They could also have invited respected journalists from around the world to confirm the death etc…
Well, we all know what they think about journalists, so that's unlikely!
It may have been approved at a high level that doesn't always mean it's the wisest decision. I thought with the picture in the rubble it was enough to prove who it was. I think there calculation with the video was to convey the message that this is your fate if you take up arms against Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-said-to-request-us-send-second-thaad-missile-defense-battery-ahead-of-iran-attack/
Whose they? Respected journalists within Israel could confirm the death if they were shown, as can international journalists from around the globe. Some from neutral countries, some from Arab countries who would distrust Israel etc…
Rumors around Bin Laden only lasted for days (excluding the conspiracy theorists), Al-Qaeda confirmed the death 4 days later.
Israel is not really journalist-friendly right now. Compare reports coming from Gaza with those from Lebanon. What I'm mainly trying to point out is there is a plan behind releasing the drone footage this way. It might be a terrible plan, but there's some basic game plan and I'm curious as to what it is.
I'm talking about Israel, not Gaza or Lebanon. His body is in Israel, are you saying Israel would be hostile to journalists they invite into Israel to view the body? There's plenty of journalists reporting from Israel already.
what you actually mean is.
the message is, give us your land and leave, or be genocided.
Theres an article on guardian.co.uk , comment. Its absolutely horrific they are destroying All the infrastructure in Gaza not just buildings Gaza is like a prison apart from there's a fair chance civilians will get bombed or shot
They tell people move to area x people are I'll and tired of being moved around
Yes it's hard to search buildings that might contain bombs or booby traps
But the IDF have access to advanced technology
but simply bombing hospitals and churches is not a fair solution it seems they ,ll defeat hamas by starving them and making Gaza totally unliveable
I think most experts would say what the IDF is doing is genocide
There seems to be no attempt to avoid killing innocent civilians women or children
and give us your land or be slaughtered cause god says we are entitled.
because that is what this is all about.
israel don't care about the hostages and hamas is an extension of israel anyway.
Why do you think the Israelis are doing things this way? I'm curious to hear any theories because I doubt it has changed any opinion s on the ground.
I've no clue why they did what they did. I'm only giving the other options they had.
The 20,000 or so dead children didn't vote for them 18 years ago but I guess they got what they deserved as far as you're concerned, they were just Arabs anyway so they're guilty of that if nothing else in your warped worldview.
there will be no journalists allowed in the Israel, they might spread the truth
You could ask the same question of Hamas. What did they hope to achieve by the attack on October 7th.
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free. Because Allah says its ours
Seriously ? You have two choices, die or die. What would you choose?
Hamas being an instrument of the Iranian regime, who orchestrated the attack knowing full well that Israel would over react and turn Gaza into a land filled with ruin and death. The aim of that which was to throw a big spanner in the peace process that was gaining great momentum between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Now we have what seems to be a forever war.
Even if Hamas and Hezbollah were destroyed, another terrorist group would take their places.
This is a conflict that will only end if Israel were not there, but Israel is there, and should be there.
So peace is not obtainable in that region. It is a forever war... which the industrial war machines are quite happy with I imagine.
Based on his posts over the years, he doesn't view them as humans and the bonus for him is the imaginary point scoring against "the left".
So the Jews expelled from Turkey and various places around the Middle East are not relevant to any of this? I mean, it seems to me you're picking just the departure of Arabs from Israel when in fact there were multiple crossover population movements following the break up of the Ottoman Empire. What you're doing is like saying that the descendants of Muslims in Pakistan who arrived there during and after partition are entitled to their land in India, and to murder random Indian civilians if they don't get, but that Indians who fled Pakistan have no equivalent rights.
Not to mention the fact that many of the Arabs who left did so at the instigation of their own side, who told them that this would leave the way clear for the Arab armies to destroy the Jews, and that they would come back after the inevitable victory.
And unlike most* of the rest of the former Ottoman Empire, from which non Muslim minorities have now almost disappeared, Israel has a 20% Arab minority who are well-represented at all levels of the state. Compare that to Gaza, where local employees even in the christian NGOs were nearly all Muslims, because the local authorities would not cooperate with Christians.
I really don't get this idea that he was fighting to the end: he was sitting, terribly injured, in a ruined house and was only able to vaguely fling a stick of some sort at the drone which he knew was about to bring that information back to the IDF, so if he could knock it down he had some chance. But that's not exactly fighting on the front line.
Not to mention that there's a second argument among pro Hamas commentators which is that he was murdered - but both of those can't be true.
As for the hostages, one possible explanation why there were none there is that there are none left alive, or none that are well enough to be of any use to him when moving around outside the tunnels (the six that were executed were in terrible physical condition). Given that many were old or already injured, it's very likely that they would only slow everything down even further. And any that are young and strong enough to move quickly would be quite likely to use the fact of being outside to escape.
It's a matter of timing, Hamas want to take the population of Gaza with them, for their own religious reasons and much of the populace of Gaza are willing to help in that
Yes, I mentioned earlier that most of the hostages are likely dead. If there was enough of them alive, he wouldn't need to move from tunnel to tunnel. It would make more sense to stay put and surround himself with them.
I interpreted the throwing of the stick as a futile but defiant act. He was severely injured, he knew what his fate was.
They think now that the hostages shot in September where with him but were killed when moving them became so difficult, his fate was sealed. Like his sister who he had killed for having an extramarital affair, according to his faith.
He himself killed people just because they were gay.
I know you are not saying it but there are a lot of people online in this country making out he was Gandhi and Che all in one and I'm frankly shocked
They don't have much option. Stuck in a tiny space between Hamas and a military who has been reprimanded by their closest ally over their conduct during the war.
