It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
I was actually a massive lefty for years and extremely anti Israel until the events of the 7th of October. Had a huge shift in my thinking after that event.
Re the teenage edgelord thing, you might see my boards joint date is October 2001. As much as I wish I were still a teenage edgelord, those days are long gone :(
I do take umbrage to that racist comment by the way, I haven't posted a single racist thing in any of my posts.
Me disagreeing with you doesn't make me a racist.
Either way, you're not particularly good at debating if you need to resort to ad hominem. Last death swing from a losing argument.
"Had to be destroyed" is a Zionist narrative. Many terrorist / guerilla / revolutionary movements were never actually defeated by the state (or states) they were fighting against. Frequently it was the case that time simply moved on and there was some other outcome that brought the movement's activities to a close (sometimes they even assumed power in the region where they were operating).
Deliberately Bombing hospitals and schools seems perfectly normal to you ?
And no I am not a Hamas supporter - I am just a realist about why Hamas was an inevitable response to Israel occupation.
I'm not surprised they want to kill Israelis in the slightest. Whatever would give you that idea?
I'm just pointing out the deranged psychopathic nature of that particular event and the deranged psychopathic nature of the terrorist supporters on here who deemed it as an acceptable action of 'freedom fighters'.
Can I just add by the way, a lot of people say there are no HAMAS supporters here.
Can we now once and for all state there are?
You're right they must be evil to do this. Why else would IDF soldiers drop bombs and shoot innocent children and women....oh wait
You compared what the Israelis are doing to hamas. I presume you think Hamas are evil terrorists yet you've completely embarrassed yourself by comparing their actions and similarities. Hilarious. Your lack of awareness is so amusing. You only think it's terrorism when it's brown Muslim guys doing it. You're so backwards it's fascinating
There is no solution. Israel has made it quite clear they have never been interested in a solution. That looks like extinction to the Palestines so why are you surprised that they want to kill Israelis ?
israel are simply securing their borders from hamas, hezbollah, houthis, iranian etc. attacks - very simple really, once iran's ballistic missile attack is responded to, the hamas hostages are safely returned by the terrorists and iranian proxies cease their incessant attacks israel will be happy to live in peace in the promised land
And the solution to this is an AK47 in an old ladies face, gotcha ;)
You're really not doing a lot for the Gazan cause with these comments tbh.
Israel has said it does not wish to attack oil refineries in Iran. Its not at war with Saudi Arabia. If they attacked refineries that would push up the price of oil for America and all western country's
It could attack Iran nuclear facilities and other buildings like army bases it seems to have forgotten about rescuing hostages it defeat iran if it has support from America
In the 70s there was a recession oil crisis caused by the war in which various country's attacked Israel including Egypt
Gen z is too young to remember this it effected the us economy oil price went up by a large amount suddenly when oil goes up it causes the price of everything to rise
Would Biden. Support a full scale war on Iran is another question
Your fairly sure that you have never had to face the prospects of a totally stolen future so you opinion of what you would do in such a situation isn't worth a hill if beans.
Some of our ancestors did massacre innocent civilians in the name of Irish independence. War and a relentless cycle of violence can warp people's minds. The Israeli public has degenerated to such an extent that killing 15k kids is not anything that worries them, the only people they care about in Gaza is their hostages. I'd say the 7th October response which I don't think has a nice and shiny website to reveal the full extent of will warp a fair few minds to be willing to kill innocents too.
Because Hamas were stopped and Israel kept going till they were finished as a force.
They did what they had to do.
Pity Hamas didn't surrender last Oct and release all the hostages, their choice.
What differentiates the Palestinians is the sheer joy in the most brutal killing, the mindset stands out, even the most brutal societies elsewhere hid it.
It was religious ecstasy, always has been. Always will be.
So again, just to reiterate, you think there is a string of events that could lead to you machine gunning defenceless old ladies in their homes and RPGing civilians trying to escape in cars?
Just take a step back from the whole situation, Gaza, Israel. The whole thing and think of that for a moment.
You could stand in front of a defenceless person, with them pleading for their life, and execute them.
Honestly, I'm fairly sure that's absolute bluster from yourself or else you don't really understand the ramifications of what you're saying. I hope it is anyway. If not, that's deranged. There are plenty of people in Gaza right now who could not do that and plenty of Irish 'freedom fighters' who couldn't have done it either.
If you want to have a look at some of the other nice 'things' you think you'd be able to do in the name of 'freedom', have a look at www(dot)hamas-massacre(dot)net/ (I won't include the hyper link as it's to some very horrific imagery)
Only lost it in your mind. Every Muslim state surrounding Israel wants to destroy it. Not a good look for the Muslims is it?
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Sorry to say that Irish freedom fighters resorted to some fairly brutal tactics in pursuit of freedom. So I really wouldn't bet you would be considered the good guy if you were subjected to generational brutality.
Question for some of you lads.
Why have a supposed legitimate democracy with the most accurate, precise and advanced weapons in the world killed far more innocent civilians than a supposed evil terrorist organisation with basic and unsophisticated and less accurate weapons??
Why is that do you think? Or do you already know the answer and are just horrible human beings
My neighbour is a Muslim. Do you think he hates me?
You're comparing the Israeli government and state to who you'd consider a terrorist organisation. That's not a good look for the Israelis is it ? You've already lost the argument.
And Hamas and Hezbollah did none of this ..right? Pure as the driven snow 😂
No you're 100% right, I'd machine gun old ladies point blank in their homes and cheer about it.
Saw a great video there recently id forgotten about where a HAMAS guy RPGs a civilian car right through the front wind shield head on as they're trying to escape. I might give that a go too.
Yet israels overreaction to the October attacks is to brutally murder thousands more. Weird that. Maybe take a look in the mirror and have a chat with yourself
You support a far right government, killing children and stealing land. What does that say about you ?
A plague on all their houses is a point i sometimes reflect on.
The historical links between the sides one is a story from 60 years ago, people with left wing views in Palestinian streets keep quiet or end up bouncing off the road
It would be it also might mean other oil refineries going boom across Arabia.
People often overlook the reason Soleimani was killed, it wasn't because of attacks against us bases, that was a given.
It was the launching of missiles against the refinery in Arabia, that going boom would have had oil spike to several hundred a barrel.
I think one of the key things people dislike about Israel is that it doesn't put others needs above itself, which is a real modern western middle class fetish, look at support for Palestine in America. Support goes up, up the class ladder.
Its a very twisted world view you have if you think Muslims hate us for not been Muslims.
Fairly **** racist.
Let me explain it to you as you seem to need a bit of help.
Your logic to get around the moral issue of murdering innocent old Jewish women in their home boils down to:
'everyone in Gaza is in/supports the HAMAS death cult, you would have been too if you were born there, therefore you would have murdered innocent old Jewish women in their homes too'.
If this is the case, there is no hope for Gaza as it's full of potential murdering brainwashed psychopaths. That is an absolutely wild accusation.
My take on it is that not everyone in Gaza is in the HAMAS death cult and that the people who did committed the October the 7th atrocity were murdering barbarians who had a choice not to engage with butchering unarmed people.
Further to this, if I were from Gaza, I would have most definitely not engaged in this behaviour as I a not a murdering psychopath.
You on the other hand…
Just always been against reactionaries i guess.
The most effective way and quickest way would be to target the oil sector from an Israeli perspective, but that risk an oil crisis. Joe won't want that before an election. So if he has any influence that will be off the table, but as we have seen thus far Bibi doesn't care about Joe's domestic concerns if it serves his interests.
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