Reported missing on 30th August after not being seen for 2 days. He’s 8 years old. Why would you leave it 2 days before reporting it?
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1016/1475727-drogheda-investigation/
Mod - Move on from the statutory rape comments please, it's not relevant
You'd hope the other kids living in the grandmothers house are in care now.
But at the same time the government were happy to punt some of the issues over to them.
The childs mother is missing and presumed dead too.
No shes not.
I had read earlier this was the case. The Irish Times has reported that the childs mother has been found safe and well in the UK. This is getting more mysterious and troubling.
100%. Rose byrne tyson the mother / grandmother reported that the mother and child were asleep on her sofa at the end of august and when missing then. That seems to be untrue.
God love the youngster. Seems to be a sad existence. Heartbreaking to think thise responsible for loving him and caring for him are the ones who done this. I hope the other kids are out of harms way
Rest in peace.
And this poor little poppet. 😕
https://armaghi.com/news/dungannon-news/child-found-dead-in-dungannon-named-locally/253498
And this little one - absolute evil scum abused and killed her... and people knew but didn't report it?! 😡
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn8jnggdj0qo
Makes me livid, those poor children.😢
My uncle's wife worked in Tusla. She's now an estate agent...
I don't get the objection to considering mental illness though - if you speculate on the internet that someone might be mentally ill, that's all you're doing. Your opinion won't make a difference to the outcome. That's up to psychiatric experts. And if they deem the defendant mentally ill, then so be it. It's not something that can just be overlooked, and it's a considerable likelihood. They still have to be locked up though.
There have been a number of instances on boards where someone, has posted about seeing / hearing something involving a child that just didn't seem right. My standard suggestion is to report the concern to Tusla: They're the expects who can investigate if something is abuse, neglect, or just unfortunately co-incidence.
Often, the response from other posters and mods is to vilify me for suggesting such a dreadful thing. I've been officially warned not to post again about such things. Told that people should mind their business. Etc.
This thread is the result of people minding their own business.
If you SEE something involving a vulnerable person, SAY something.
Genuinely caring people are happy to be investigated, because it enables actual abusers to be discovered.
The more I read about this story. More confused and questions I have. Poor kid. Just fcking horrible story.
times podcast
https://player.fm/series/in-the-news-2930202/why-gardai-fear-a-missing-eight-year-old-boy-was-murdered
very disturbing stuff
Speaking as a relative of a recent victim of abuse, Tusla is a complete basketcase of an organisatiion on every level. Staff are very detached from reality and avoid the core elements of the job and social work profession - which is face to face contact. They dont "get" child protection and their practises are decades behind the rest of the developed world - which is disgraceful consideting their raison d'etre.
For example, if a child is abused by a staff member of a school, creche etc, is reported by a parent or even the Gardai, Tusla DOES NOT contact the employer. It only ever deals with the perpetrator and in confidence. This is contrary to best practise whereby the child protection officer of the employing organisation should ALWAYS be informed of any risk to the children in their care.
An absolutely horrendous story is unfolding here. Neglect and violent abuse of a small boy and a family seemingly covering it all up. 😢😢
Another poster mentioned the Dalkey House of Horrors child abuse case, and I agree that this appalling case may have similar aspects. Vile.
Another story on the evening news last night about a toddler murdered up North - utterly depressing.
That was actually really helpful in explaining the timeline of this and also actions of Gardaí so far. It'd make you sick hearing about something like this, it really would.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/missing-kyran-durnin-8-was-last-seen-when-he-was-in-senior-infants-in-2022/a381249380.html
Utterly harrowing. I really hope those who are responsible for this and those who helped cover it up are brought to justice. None of this mental health nonsense. This is just clearly a case of neglect, abuse and murder.
The child’s mothers house is up for sale
If the school was informed Kyran wasn't returning at the end of senior infants 2 years ago his murder must have been planned and then his family carried on as normal.
This is harrowing.
she owns a house at 24? wow
Is the mother only 24? Means Kyron was born when she was only 16?
Is that relevant?
At least as relevant as whether she owns her own home surely?
Yes: being raped and becoming pregnant as a result probably contributed significantly to her mental health issues.
You know she was raped?
Yes shes only 24 and the mother of 3 children so tough situation. Its unclear how much involvement Tusla had with her - it seems Kyran was under their watch but it seems they failed him badly. I havent seen any mention if Kyran was in contact with his dad at all.
Something must have triggered the grandmother to report her daughter and Kyran as missing on the 30th August - it wasnt back to school that was worrying her given that he hadnt been to school in the last 2 years and nobody noticed, it has to have been something else that prompted her to report them missing.
How do you know she was raped? Do you know her or the family?
The age of consent in Ireland is 17.
She gave birth when she was 16, or perhaps only just 17.
Human gestation takes 9 months.
So she must have been impregnated when she was less than the age of consent. Can only have happened as a result of rape, because a 16 year old does not have the ability to consent(even if they think they do, they don't.)
The whole thing is absolutely terrifying.
Legally it can be looked on as rape but she may have consented and willingly had sex - in that situation its not actually rape is it. So you are clutching at straws claiming her problems stem from being raped. I haven't heard or read anything that says she was actually raped.
I don't think that is completely true anymore, there is a "Romeo & Juliet" defence now in Irish law:
https://www.sexualwellbeing.ie/sexual-health/sexual-consent/legal-age-of-consent/#:~:text=The%20law%20recognises%20that%20younger,%E2%80%9CRomeo%20and%20Juliet%20Defence%E2%80%9D.
Of course that doesn't rule out that it was rape but her likely age at the time does allow for the possibility it wasn't.
Without getting into the speculation that it in anyway contributed to the mothers state of mental health, it's not simply that legally it "can be looked on" as rape... by statutory definition it is rape as there is no valid consent. The fact that someone ends up in that situation ie with three children at young age and the youngest conceived at 16, usually does not point towards stable circumstances in modern Ireland so the child was not born into ideal circumstances from the start.
Edit to clarify, there is currently no allegation or suggestion that the mother of the child is responsible for causing any harm to the child. I am merely commenting upon the circumstances in which the child may have been living.
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