Reported missing on 30th August after not being seen for 2 days. He’s 8 years old. Why would you leave it 2 days before reporting it?
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1016/1475727-drogheda-investigation/
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No, sorry, even if it was as simple as take the pill and be 100% fine, the child would still be just a missed pill away from yet another attempt on their life. So regardless of circumstances and causes and reasons, once an attempt has ben made, or any sort of serious violence or abuse, then that should be the end of it, the child should be taken away. They can recover, they cam visit but never again should they have the custody given back.
Waiting to hear that the grandmother also had mental health problems.
This is a really weird story. The Irish Times is reporting that the mother has been located safe & well in the UK, but the tabs are carrying statements from her mother begging her to make contact. In fact, the Irish Times piece said earlier that the mother had been found five days after they were first reported missing, which would have been September 4th, but has since been updated to just say she was found in the UK. Meanwhile, the Mirror is saying "Kyran Durnin and his mother Dayla went missing overnight on August 28 from the family's home in County Louth, Ireland, after the 24-year-old left a note saying she 'needed to get away for a few days'. Police launched search efforts two days later, and despite 'extensive enquiries' have not found any clues to their whereabouts well over a month later."
Times also saying that "Some individuals known to the child have been co-operating with the investigation while others have been less forthcoming". Sounds like the family know exactly what happened and have been covering it up for some time. Poor little mite, sounds like he had a very rough life.
If the mental health system in this country is crap, then how can we trust someone to go through the system and then put them back in custody of a child they've already tried to murder, twice?
Of course nobody wants to brand people after having a breakdown, but if they've attempted to kill their child twice already it's not a reach to think the child could still be in danger.
Have you or someone very close to you ever had a mental illness?
A lot of ifs, all it needs id for one to go wrong.
Stories like this really make you want to grab your own kids and give them a real big squeezey hug.
Let me start by saying what a horrible tragedy this appears to be based on the reported facts.
"If the person is now on the right medication"
Like yourself and many others I suspect, I believed that there was a pill for most common mental health disorders and that people just needed to keep taking the meds. I've changed my views due to extensive reading on the subject. Robert Whitaker has done incredible work in this area, other rational sceptics are David Healy, Joanna Moncrief and Peter Gotzsche.
Ireland has always had a terrible track record of child care, and despite what nostalgia says people were greedy back in the day. So unfortunately this case is another stain on Ireland's record of looking after children.
I don't envy anyone the job of having to decide when the state intervenes in a family, jump in too prematurely and you run the risk of being accused of over reaching. Not bothering to see why a child isn't at a meeting, you can end up with something like this case.
common with plenty of disorders, including cluster b's
There doesn’t seem to be a shred of guilt shown for what’s been done. If there was, the location of the poor boy would be known by now.
the sector actually requires multiple times more that per annum, to effectively deal with the issues, probably wont ever happen though, so, more messed up stories such as, will occur in the future….
If the person is now on the right medication and has family support- mental health system in this country is crap- why should they always be branded by their breakdown. Breakdowns can be caused by alot of things not just mental illness, stress, fatigue other issues. I'd be very annoyed if someone was blabbing on the internet about a certain case from the outside.
They don't have the staff. It's a terrible job. The workload, the stress, the abuse. Al lot of social workers leave the profession.
The hyper consumption, hyper competition, greed driven, dog eat dog, materialistic one.
not an excuse at all, plenty of evidence globally of serious crimes, mass murders etc linked to the ineffective care of long term mental issues
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not really, long term supports post breakdown are rare, met a few that have had, long term supports were poor to say the least, and in some case, non existent at all, know plenty that have worked in the sector for decades, have said its always been so….
still significant stigma regarding mental health issues, probably always will be, struggle with mental health issues myself, part and parcel with my disorders, never required psychiatric care though, thank god, supports are still poor enough for me, if you dont have sufficient money to provide your own care, you re effectively goosed!
welcome to health care ireland!
Was wondering how long before mental health excuses came out and the blame game on Tusla..
It’s as much legal eagles and legal stumbling blocks that allow children remain in very dangerous situations.
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What hamster wheel?
Are people not allowed to recover from mental breakdowns? Or are they always branded by their breakdown
significant long term mental health issues would be common in highly dysfunctional families, under such conditions, its common for highly complex psychological issues such as cluster b disorders to form, traits such as pathological lying and deceit would be common with such, the virginia mccullough situation in the uk would be a similar dysfunctional family case
Very sad story. Puts so many things on perspective. I definitely think we all need to step off the hamster wheel in this country for a bit and reflect on where we are being taken.
How can that be so?
Tusla has an annual budget of €1 billion (yes, that's a billion).
https://assets.gov.ie/297293/5455ed97-5db5-4299-9725-21a070bc4262.pdf
What is Roderic O' Gorman doing with this money? Shovelling it out to high price consultants, coke and hookers? There must be astronomical levels of waste going on.
The 'may have died violently' is particularly chilling in that. :(
Mental health will obviously be used as an excuse here. Sounds like there are issues throughout the family.
Gardai believe the grandmothet cpuldnt have seen the chikd alive on the 28th of august.
A serious cover up involving a lot of people.
Terribly sad and disturbing stuff. Rip young man.
Tusla or social workers do not have the resources or staff to even manage a fraction of the worst cases.
It's really shocking
understandable really, when a state is simply unwilling to implement appropriate long term supports for all involved, probably wont ever change either
I'm editing this comment it's insensitive. Apologies
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