It looks like a new scheme is on the way as Limerick County Council have started the procurement of consultants for the Foynes to Limerick Road Improvement Scheme.
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tis no wonder there are serious overruns in capital projects if people in charge of these projects think 50million is a pittance..
In the context of €30+ billion between the two budget surpluses and the Apple money, it is indeed pittance.
no it most certainly is not….
Where did someone in charge of these projects say or think €50m is a pittance? You are quoting another member of this forum.
Iarnrod Éireann have commissioned Sisk to build the 3 railway bridges required over the Limerick-Foynes line for this project
Railway bridges passing over the road?
I'd expect Sisk to win the tender for the road.
The road will go over the railway. Twice on the Adare bypass section and once on the Askeaton spur.
Sisk are doing the Foynes railway reinstatement.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bam-bids-to-build-150m-bypass-for-ryder-cup-at-billionaire-jp-mcmanuss-adare-manor/a1291426690.html
Behind a paywall. They are entitled to tender for the project. Im sure there will be a tighter set of documents for this project than the childrens hospital.
Outside of the NCH, BAM have an excellent record in building infrastructure in Ireland. They were part of the JV that built the recently opened N5 Westport to Turlough scheme in Mayo, are currently building the North Quays and pedestrian bridge project in Waterford and were recently awarded the Cork commuter double tracking project.
And TII don't hand out contracts like the NCH one. It's the first and last time a public contract will be produced like that.
A post last week from John Cradock LinkedIn page which contradicts the above.
We are mobilising on our latest project, having been appointed by Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail to deliver three new bridges over the existing Foynes-Limerick Railway Line. These bridges will ultimately form an integral part of the Limerick - Foynes Road (which includes the Adare Bypass) which is being developed by Limerick City and County Council. Our team, led by Patrick Kenny, will be working closely with the Employers Representative O'Connor Sutton Cronin on the scheme.
My source was LinkedIn also, I couldn't find a link back later in the day to post here so I must have misread it. My apologies.
And in pure road terms, they delivered the N7 Newlands Cross/M11 Arklow-Rathnew, M11 Gorey-Enniscorthy and the N25 New Ross PPPs during the lean years.
They are well able as you say.
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/planning/1621041/embattled-firm-bam-applies-to-build-150m-bypass-in-limerick.html
Limerick Leader reporting 4 tenderers: BAM, Sisk/Sorensen, Wills, Jons
They're only tendering now? At the beginning of this year, this was supposed to have started by September!
As for BAM, it's (mostly) not their fault the NCH has been a fiasco, it's the Gov's.
It's not even the same BAM. BAM Buildings (NCH) and BAM Infrastructure (this) are separate companies within the BAM Group.
I guarantee the assholes at the likes of the Daily Mail will ignore this and complain of BAM Infrastructure gets this contract.
It was never supposed to start in September. The original timeline had hoped for the tender to be awarded by September. There's a huge difference between tender award and construction start.
In the end the contract didn't go to tender until June with a closing date for submissions in September.
Update from Dronehawk showing progress to date on the earthworks and archeological survey.
Interesting to see that house near the Maigue. Looks like windows have been removed. I would have thought it could be used for site offices?
It's directly on the path of the road. There will be major earthworks in that area for the Maigue Bridge.
Cant believe they levelled a ringfort for the road… they will have no luck for that… how were they even allowed..?? i know a farmer who was up in court for interfering with a ringfort.. lost his farm payments over it and had to sell his cattle to pay the legal costs..
There's a difference between doing something with permission and without permission.
The ring fort also doesnt seem to show up on any maps I have looked at so may not have been discovered until the route was finalised. Would it have been discovered using sonar tech before excavations or during the trial excavations that traverse the route? It is located at the croagh interchange that councillors pushed for.
who’s land was thst
I thought ringforts were protected.. as in permission or no permission didn't matter.. you couldn't go near them ..
There are over 45,000 ringforts in Ireland. They are literally everywhere. They are not of national archaeological significance so once recorded properly that can be removed.
Some rigforts or enclosures are more significant than others. They will typically try to avoid impacting them but sometimes unavoidable or you discover them at the current stage and have to study them and then excavate or preserve them. All of this work is under licence.
There is also the somewhat ropey, yet completely true argument that you wouldn't have known about the ringfort all all, much less get the chance to excavate it, without the M21 project.
Not ropey at all. Every major construction project now includes an archaeological survey phase for this exact reason. Archaeologists get the opportunity to investigate the area, but unless something of huge historical significance is discovered, the project will then proceed once they've finished.
This is now standard practice in European construction projects, but spare a thought for the team managing the expansion of Line C of the Rome Metro: the route runs right under the heart of Imperial Rome, and so it was only a matter of time before they hit something significant. But construction of the line continued after extensive archaeological investigations, and the station, Porta Metronia, should open later this month - the praetorian guard barracks that was uncovered in construction has been incorporated into a museum exhibit in the station. (Linea C has been plagued with delays and cost overrun, and it's pretty much all down to this kind of thing: the tunnels are deeper than the ground level at any period where humans lived in Rome, but the stations need to get all the way to the surface, and that means digging down through a few thousand years of civilisation)
From Chapter 14 (Archaeology, Architecture and Cultural Heritage) of the Foynes to Limerick Road EIAR:
Of the 122 archaeological sites within the receiving environment, 28 are classed as ringforts (AH 2–4, 6, 8, 10–12, 15–16, 19, 22, 25–27, 29–30, 32–33, 37, 39, 52, 90, 96 and 119–122), and a further 35 as enclosures (AH 7, 9, 13, 20–21, 24, 31, 40–44, 46–49, 57–61, 62–66, 84, 92, 97, 99, 102, 104, 108,114 and 118). Ringforts and potential ringforts - often recorded as enclosures - are the most common archaeological sites recorded within the receiving environment and largely represent early medieval farmsteads and stock enclosures. Indeed, West Limerick has one of the highest ringfort densities in the country, at c. 1.52 per square kilometre (Stout 1997, 99). A crannóg, a partially or entirely artificial island used as a dwelling place, is also located within the receiving environment (AH 34) and may also date to this period. During the course of the present assessment a significant number of additional sites that are likely to date to the early medieval period were identified through aerial photographs, LiDAR analysis and geophysical surveys (detailed below).
In simple terms you couldn't build this road without coming into contact with numerous ringforts. Of the 60,000 ringforts that are believed to have existed in Ireland, over half remain. The practice in projects such as this is to identify, survey and then excavate, preserve or record as appropriate, the same as for other archeological remains.
