It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Ireland is the only non microstate in Europe that has to make a beg call to other countries every couple of years because we can't be arsed to do the bare minimum for our own citizens like every other country.
I've told you. It would SIGNIFICANTLY more money than what's on offer at the moment to bring our DF up to any kind of standard that exists within a lot of European countries.
And that will come from the tax take.
Nobody believes that you'd be willing to put your hand in your pocket and hand over more in taxes to do that.
And the reality is that VERY few people in Ireland would be interested in an increase in taxes to pay for what would result in a slightly buffed Defence Force, whether the swing right or left. In fact, if there was an increase in taxes it would be the right who'd be whinging about it.
Now go away. I'm done with your nonsense.
It's a really simple problem. There is one tiny Jewish state in the world, and many groups including entire countries, are bent on grinding it out of existence. That includes the Western Left.
None of these groups or Iran give two figs who is in charge of Israel, what policies it pursues, or how many kids die in wars started by its enemies.
Once you've figured out whether or not you want Israel and its 7 million Jews to continue existing, most of the other questions about these conflicts answer themselves.
Well now doesn't that say all that needs to be said about that murderous regime. Imagine if you were a Palestinian civilian and saw that going on for years, no wonder Hamas has existed and grown with acts like that being commonplace and rewarded.
Just the Western Left Sean? Or do the Postmodern Left think that way too? Always nice to know that you can speak for the entire "left" when you've clearly never met anyone who subscribes to that view point. Same way I suppose that you casually dismiss deaths of Arabs and Muslims because, as you've probably never really interacted with one before, you can completely dehumanise them. You clearly lead a very sheltered live, it's just a pity it allows you to view other humans as nothing.
the vast majority of people don’t give Israel a second thought. Left or otherwise. When Israel brings negative attention on itself by invading other sovereign countries, taking their land, killing their citizens. People tend to sit up, take notice and form quite correctly strong negative opinions of the country and their actions….
Too many posters stuck in the American politics echo chamber. The 40 countries condemning the actions of Israel against their peacekeepers have nothing to do with the Left. The work of the icc and icj have nothing to do with the Left. I guess the only way to keep supporting Israel in the scenario of the mass murder in Gaza and continued civilian deaths in Lebanon is to somehow dumb it down to Left vs Right.
Drum up support from who? They already have US support and a new defence system wi;;, with US backing, enable them to attack Iran. They are just waiting for this to be installed. They are bloodthirsty murderers. Some day the entire region will be forced to attack them because of their actions. They are a scourge now and they only want the UN troops gone so that they can murder away at leisure. They are every bit as murderous as Hamas now.
So that's a school, a food distribution centre, a medical centre, a Christian village and a UN peace-keeping outpost all successfully targeted in the last week by Zionist forces.
When I say "successfully targeted" I mean it killed plenty of women, children and injured i.e. the shields of Hamas/Hezbollah targets. Now that the shields are neutralised, I'm sure we'll actually see some terrorists being hit now..
I said that a long way back in the thread. Nobody challenged it either. Anti Muslim it is for sure.
We can look at the similarities
There are many very damning posts that are not challenged. They are ignored. Blinkers become blindfolds. The policy seems to be whataboutery, evasion, distraction and repetition of nonsense.
This is not true:
I mean, Irish people in general have never in our history had any reason to be anti-Jewish.
The Catholic Church (which was a large force in Ireland until recently) spent the best part of 2,000 years demonising Jews as hated Christ-killers, and that remained the state of affairs until Vatican II, also we've had TDs like Oliver J. Flanagan who doubled his vote share down in Offaly after giving deranged speech about Hitler and the Jews and Masons whatever.
QED. You again...No thanks...Credibility in tatters. Why don't you answer more recent posts around your red lines? 😉 Actually don't bother, I know the answer.
Let me fix that for you:
"There is one tiny State in the World who is bent on grinding its neighbours out of existence"
Israel is an apartheid, terrorist, genocidal pariah - it has proved this every day for the last 12 months. Israel is the major threat in the Middle East.
Your claim that Ireland doesn't have a history of anti-Semitism is debunked. And I have no idea why you are still banging on about red lines.
Ok
Your red line is
"an Irish peacekeeper being injured or killed by the IDF"
but 20,000 dead children is not a red line for you.
That appears to have struck a chord with many as being "callous", to put it mildly.
The fact you appear oblivious, compounds it. But perhaps you're not oblivious at all and you genuinely don't care that 20,000 children have been murdered by Israel and you will defend that without flinching.
I agree with the poster, your credibility is in tatters and you have no moral compass.
The Zionists killed their own PM for even contemplating the Two State solution.
After 9/11 the Zionists saw the opportunity to nurture Hamas to undermine the Palestinian cause.
Now Fatah and Hamas are reconciled and the world understands who's committing the genocide.
IIRC my view was that I did not want our service members to be killed/harmed by anyone. Don't recall if I used the term "red line" or not, as that was something another poster was banging on about.
Right. People aren't calling for the destruction of Israel because left-wing new sources don't cover it. Gotcha.
Obviously, 20,000 children being killed is bad. I just assumed that went without saying.
My problem is you're blaming Israel when it's Hamas that started the war. But UNIFIL has not acted to provoke Israel in any way, so there is a very big difference.
A Russian or Iranian poxy winning puts a hostile state directly on border of the EU, the club we are currently in.
Only 40% of kids in Israel attend secular schools, a massive drop from the start when it was over 90%.
Orthodox families are bigger and their schools don't even teach science, at any level.
Those kids didn't provoke the war. You say it is bad and goes without saying but Israel are killing them. Sure it is because they also want to kill hamas fighters at the same time but how are people supposed to take it seriously that you are against the klkillign of these kids if you assign no responsibility to israel for this killing.
I can see why you are against Israel stopping their operation in Gaza as you seem to be under the illusion that they are doing nothing in Gaza.
But Hamas was the government of Gaza, and they chose to take the territory to war.
So what. When Israel bombs a residential area and kills civilians both hamas and Israel bear responsibility. To do this for a year and still say israel has no responsibility is a lie that no one buys any more.
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At least you assign some responsibility to Hamas which is more than I can say for some. But to me it seems like Israel has little choice but to fight an all-out war and try to incapacitate or destroy Hamas as best it can - and it seems questionable that they can do this without civilian casualties. It is for this reason that I do not share the view that there's some hard limit number somewhere.
The man should be in the Hague, not pandered to by the media and the US
