It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Oke dokey. Feel free to point to a single one of the many posts I've posted cheering on the Russians
Russia=Israel. Anyone without a strong cognitive dissonance ability will not be able to support one and criticize the other
Both are bad. One is worse than the other.
The fact that one has to spell this out illustrates just how far some people have fallen down the rabbit hole of outrage
Where if someone says something about X they pile on and invent **** like “oh you support Y” when that clearly is not what was written
Both are horrendous, you are just doing your best to make it look like what the Regime are doing is less bad.
You do know no one falling for it right?
keep building that straw man
It's your straw man.
You are the one introducing Russia into a thread about Israel.
Look over there ———————>
Israel can slaughter thousands of civilians in creating a bigger buffer zone but it's inevitable that the type of new war fare emerging in Ukraine will be adapted whereby tanks that can cost millions will be taken out by $50 grenades dropped from drones.
Once glide drones become the norm Iron Dome will become irrelevant.
going to bookmark and quote this post from now on anyone mentions Ukraine or Russia in relation to Israel’s deplorable carry on, thanks
Anyone else think it's very hypocritical for the usual suspects to be shouting at the top of their lungs about Irish neutrality when they absolutely don't want Ireland to be neutral in this conflict?
You'd be better off bookmarking your whataboutery.
'Russia = Israel'
You might want to loosen that keffiyeh there Don, the lack of blood is starting to make your vision turn completely black and white.
No, 'Russia' is not 'Israel', they are totally unique scenarios with completely different histories / influences and to equate the two in such a simplistic manner beggars belief.
As much as I disagree with your frothing vehemence when it comes to Israel, you generally make good points. This is akin to that 'Orange man = bad' nonsense.
You're the one that brought it up initially.
The same lot who were insisting that we don’t spend anything on our defence forces or work with NATO/EU/UN (and argued against their deployments to Africa) have now developed a strong concern for defence forces
Are you trying to defend your lots lack of concern for our defence forces? Ireland is performing a peace keeping mission, that is what the general public wants.
I heard an interview with an ex UNIFIL Irish soldier saying that Israel are flattening evacuated villages in south Lebanon. It does appear like they are creating a buffer zone or perhaps paving the way for illegal settlements.
Me? Nope just pointing out the hypocrisy from the Left here (especially Shinners who hate the DF and Gardai) who in innumerable threads argued against funding and supporting our defence forces and their deployments on missions like this one suddenly doing a complete 180
It's actually been surprising that something like this hasn't happened up until now to the Israelis. There is so much online about how the Ukrainians, in particular, have modified off the shelf drones, in order to fight back against the Russians invading their country that it was inevitable that someone would use it to counter the IDF. I guess the people in Gaza don't have even that basic tech but the Lebanese likely do.
I was listening to a podcast last week and they were saying that one of the reasons why the Israelis have been so bullish recently is that they took far less military losses in Gaza than they had calculated that they would during a full invasion. It's likely the only thing that will make them think twice now is serious losses to their own troops. As both the Russian and Ukrainian on the frontlines in the Donbas know full well it's extremely hard to defend moving infantry against small drones.
I would agree regarding sinn feins views on the DF but it's not just Sinn Fein or the left in Ireland that is against what Israel is doing. All the political parties across the spectrum are against them.
They may not be exactly hypocrists but there are a few unpatriotic irish posters here supporting Israel over their own DF.
Interesting when I made a similar comment
I was warned by mods and given 1 point by @Beasty, let’s see what happens here, reported now and dispute thread created
Poster warned and 1 week forum ban applied
The Israelis have had to pull in a lot of IDF reservists - their casualties in Gaza were large, for a nation of their size.
Hezbollah is a different animal though and terrain is against them in south lebanon. Expect many many more IDF casualties as the war progresses.
The recent drone attack on a base in natanya shows nowhere is safe, even far from front lines
Let's deal with one peace of epic hypocrisy by "the left" in Ireland (I put "the left" in inverted commas because they are just populists really).
Do you think Ireland should be a neutral country? Or do you think Ireland should take sides and call for actions against one side which these individuals do everyday of the week (trade sanctions, expel the ambassador, close the embassy etc etc).
They talk about Ireland's "neutrality" all the time but they actually don't want Ireland to be neutral on this.
There is a specific thread for this topic. I'm not going to post off topic on this thread just because you are. At least bring Israel/Lebanon/ iran/gaza back into the conversation.
Either you believe Ireland should be neutral in this conflict or you don't. Which is it?
I believe we are are and should remain neutral on this conflict. As long as the UN believes we should remain in Lebanon we should remain there. But if you want a longer conversation about the future of Irish neutrality then there is a specific thread for that.
its good to ask what Israel's exit plan is , a country of their size has people and equipment limits , equipment wears out quicker in the field, their domestic economy will be decimated , Tourism, missing workers etc.
Do you agree there should be trade sanctions against Israel?
I'm not in favour of that at the moment, but maybe you should offer your own opinions on what Israel is doing.
The plan is as it always was - have the USA pick up the tab for the war effort
"not at the moment" OK, you want Ireland not to be neutral later, just not now
Do you not see the hypocrisy here?
Neutral countries do not take sides in wars. That's the whole premise.
We haven't taken a side militarily. We are not embargoing Israel. We are carrying out an internationally recognised peace keeping operation. That seems to be supported by the Irish people. Perhaps we are not neutral then but really of all the things to get upset aboiut today this seems be a strange one. Especially in a thread about a conflict taking place in the Middle East.
It's a plan but money doesn't fix everything, for their own sake they need to wrap this up sooner (ie sometime in 2025) rather than later
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