It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Oct 7th was not a genocide, no more than the war against hamas is one. The scale isnt there. When all is done will this war even be top 50 worst conflicts In the last 50 years, not a chance
https://www.thejournal.ie/two-more-un-peacekeepers-injured-in-south-lebanon-as-idf-forces-fire-on-base-for-second-day-6512027-Oct2024/
Second attack on a UN base today - The IDF and Israeli government really are scum to be attacking UN bases.
UN should be allowed to fire back.
Again someone who doesn't understand what genocide actually is. So your definition of genocide has a scale, can you elaborate on that? How many civilians would have to die for either to be classed as a genocide? A percentage would do. Unless that percentage differs for each sides victims.
For Palestinians the war started in 1948, this is just another stage.
It's like how people mistake the Russian invasion of Ukraine as being only since 2022, whereas there's been war since 2014.
Happy to share my definition, I presume you will be sharing yours similarly
I'm cheating a bit because mine comes from Wikipedia
Genocide is violence that targets individuals because of their membership of a group and aims at the destruction of a people
So if Israel are genocidal and the population of Gaza has grown from about 60,000 in 1950 to about 800,000 now, not just an increase, a 13-fold increase. Would you say, by that definition, that Israel are successful or unsuccessful in committing genocide against the people of Gaza?
When will they exterminate Gaza? 76 years now since the modern state of Israel was born, they are certainly playing the long game
My theory is they want to kill non Palestinians in gaza so there,ll be no witness,s to their psyhopathic genocide of civilians
I had theorised they would start with the Jews but Hamas got there first, didn't they?
How about you give over with the lazy tropes that criticism of Israel is all from the left and that much of it is anti semitic. That's just a deflection tactic to shield Israel from criticism. Also in a post complaining about anti semitism you see fit to post nonsensical racist garbage
The Regime trying to murder UN troops, destroying coms and CCTV.
The command from the top is to stay in your bunkers.
It's an absolute sick joke to leave troops as sitting ducks not allowed to at least defend themselves.
Time for each individual country to pull their troops now and not indulge this charade anymore.
they are certainly playing the long game
On the contrary, they are almost there.
Is this opinion informed by international law and what the definition of genocide is, or is it based purely on your personal bias that means you don't want to accept Israel could be committing genocide
Your definition doesn't even mention population or numbers. Why are you mentioning a population growth as a defense?
I didn't make any claim. 🙄
I'd imagine they were referring to the population and their descendants that are from before the plantations.
But you don't need me to tell you that. I'm sure you are well read on your local history
Israel have form in attacking UNIFIL bases.
Qana massacre - Wikipedia
The Qana massacre took place on April 18, 1996, near Qana, a village in then Israeli-occupied Southern Lebanon, when the Israeli military fired artillery shells at a United Nations compound, which was sheltering around 800 Lebanese civilians, killing 106 and injuring around 116. Four Fijian United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon soldiers were also seriously injured.
Israel's response to the UN report on the massacre was typical.
Are you complaining that as soon as they found out he might be involved with Hamas, he was fired? Did israel know beforehand that he was involved and not tell?
Remember Israel made a load of allegations. Israel made allegations against 19 staff. That's 0.063% of UNWRA employees.
They refused for a long time to provide any evidence. However UNWRA immediately sacked those employees. UNWRA did its own investigation and found that most of the allegations were unsubstantiated. So most of the 0.063% of the employees were innocent.
Meanwhile Israel refuse to prosecute soldiers who kill unarmed innocent civilians. People who would never harm an israeli. I'd say that UNWRA are a more trustworthy organisation. They don't kill innocents. And they fire people as soon as they get any evidence that the person might be bad, even when they're not given evidence
Interesting read re UNRWA and Israel.
Israel’s paradoxical crusade against UNRWA (972mag.com)
There is only one definition of genocide that matters. The legal definition.
The definition that the ICJ will use to determine if Israel has, in fact, committed genocide.
Why are UNIFIL even there? Hezbollah spent the last 11 months firing rockets into Israel with total impunity. If their job was to be peacekeepers, they utterly failed. And they should leave.
Is it not a fairly s*** genocide when the supposedly targeted population continues to grow by leaps and bounds? At the very least, I'm sure you'd have to agree that it is unusual? Are they just really incompetent at their supposed "genocide?"
Most of the criticism of Israel comes from either the Postmodern Left or actual Jew haters. Or, in some cases, both.
This is probably an accurate take as to why Israel are attacking UNIFIL, i.e. if they are trying to replicate the Gaza destruction and slaughter in Lebanon, international troops and observers are a major impediment:
"Professor Ray Murphy of the Irish Centre for Human Rights at University of Galway says it's apparent that the IDF wants UN peacekeepers out of the area, adding "they want free reign to do what they have done in Gaza, and they don't want international observers or any type of international presence in the area".
Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Claire Byrne, he said: "There's no hope for UNIFIL if they become a party to the conflict, it's not their role and they were never intended to be. It's a very precarious situation.""
There are recent posts that provide the definition of genocide. Have a read. You'll see that Israel is committing genocide per the definition.
But sure, just like defending the murder of circa 20,000 children by Israel, do feel free to keep on defending the Israeli genocide in Gaza.
Another one who doesn't know the definition of genocide. 3rd one today. When you want to defend Israel against genocide, please at least read and understand the definition.
Israel could have hired all 3 of ye and you could have presented the Gaza census to get their genocide case thrown out of the ICJ.
If they do make that determination the court will be denounced as biased and full of far lefties by pro Israelis. You see some pro Israeli posters have right wing views so they don't like to admit that criticism of Israel has come from across the political spectrum in Ireland. Unless the likes of Simon Harris has become far left overnight? Has he?
@dmcdona @Wolf359f It's really lame "genocide" when the population is still growing by leaps and bounds, No?
I mean literally every other genocide in history saw the targeted population at least fall … somewhat?
Sure lets all make blanket statements. Most of the support of Israel comes from actual committed Islamophobes and racists. Or in some cases, both.
See, it's quite easy
I really do find it utterly bizarre that some would excuse/ignore/encourage the deliberate targeting and attacking of UN peacekeepers. Absolutely mental.
I didn't think the racists and far right types liked Jews …
Incorrect.
You can keep stating that but it's not true. As I just mentioned criticism of Israel has come from across the political spectrum in Ireland. It might be that it suits you as a right winger to state that most criticism of Israel comes from the far left rather than admit fellow travellers could be critical of Israel.
Read the definition of genocide and try to inform yourself before spouting this kind of stuff. You aren't sticking it to the "postmodern left", whatever that is, by trying to trivialise mass murder.
I'll defer to your expertise on that front as you might know them better than me, but at the same time, they wouldn't have a great reputation for loving Arab people or Muslims.
Given what a cohort of posters here think about dead children and other civilians I'm not surprised in the slightest.
